NOV 27 2007 - Munich, Germany @ Zenith

[j_absinthe]

MARILYN MANSON

November 27th, 2007
Zenith
Munich, Germany

Confirmed 'phants for this show:

buio, farblos

[farblos]

I live in Munich, so I will be there!

But the Zenith is a smaller venue than the Olympiahalle where he played 2003. I was at the Zenith this year at the NIN show...great!

[JassyJay]

OHH this is my birthday and won't be able to go...i'm in Aust and going to 3 in Oct! So this the birthday's coming early!

But i'll being thinking about this show! :) Have loads of fun!

[Zombie]

After i cant got to dortmund ! I will be at munich and böblingen !
Great !

[WorkofArt]

I'll be there too! :-) Although it's about 350 km to Munich from here and I've already saw him in June. I would go to another concert if it would'nt be that far away.

[buio]

Just got my ticket! :D

buio confirmed

[Zombie]

Holy Shit. What a fucking great Show.
Setlist was the same as ever. The Chair at Are you the rabbit, boxing outfit at fight song, high stage at reflecting god, podium at beautiful people.
Mansons Voice was great. So great like the ACSS Days were back. Manson was in his best mood. He was smiling a lot, and talking so much. He said something that his Family Tree goes back to Munich and he fucking love Munich. Someone throw at Manson, and Manson just smiled and sayed bitch. That was great. Greates COncert i´ve ever been.
My whole REview on thursday. Because tomorrow i am going to see motörhead.

[R_Flagg]

Sounds great. By now I don't really have hopes for the setlist changing, so I just want to have a good time and him to pull of a great show, and so far he's succeeding it seems.

[farblos]

Yeah great show, just came back...as already said, the same old setlist:

If I Was Your Vampire
Disposable Teens
mOBSCENE
Tourniquet
Irresponsible Hate Anthem
Are you the rabbit
Sweet Dreams / Lunchbox
The Fight Song
Putting Holes in Happiness
Heart-Shaped Glasses
Rock Is Dead
The Dope Show
The Reflecting God
Antichrist Superstar
The Beautiful People

[DecayingSinner]

Yeah great show, just came back...as already said, the same old setlist:

If I Was Your Vampire
Disposable Teens
mOBSCENE
Tourniquet
Irresponsible Hate Anthem
Are you the rabbit
Sweet Dreams / Lunchbox
The Fight Song
Putting Holes in Happiness
Heart-Shaped Glasses
Rock Is Dead
The Dope Show
The Reflecting God
Antichrist Superstar
The Beautiful People

I think this is pretty much the full lenght song / setlist besides (love song, just a car crash away, yamatdm3, EMDM) we will get. It's a shame he doesn't even throw in TGAOG or GBWW.

[maniac master]

so, were the banners and the podium during ACSS there?

hope we will get the same setlist in Hamburg!

[buio]

Holy Shit. What a fucking great Show.
Setlist was the same as ever. The Chair at Are you the rabbit, boxing outfit at fight song, high stage at reflecting god, podium at beautiful people.
Mansons Voice was great. So great like the ACSS Days were back. Manson was in his best mood. He was smiling a lot, and talking so much. He said something that his Family Tree goes back to Munich and he fucking love Munich. Someone throw at Manson, and Manson just smiled and sayed bitch. That was great. Greates COncert i´ve ever been.
My whole REview on thursday. Because tomorrow i am going to see motörhead.

Word.

It was FUCKING awesome!!!!!!

If I saw it right, Manson really had a depression during the first concerts of this tour. But that's definetely over! He's back on top. The show was unbelievable.

[bundy]

Show was superb, sound was pretty good and his voice was fucking-A! Always wanted to see ACSS and BP with the requisites from the ACSS-tour and it was great, the last 2 songs were amazing...Best moments for me: Tourniquet !!!, Rock is Dead (never been a big fan of the song but live it was great), and the end. Hoped for JACCA but...yeah :)
But talking about the crowd I have to say this was the lamest audience EVER! People just standing there, even on the heaviest songs. Manson tried to play with the crowd but they were that stupid that didn`t get it or maybe didn`t know the lyrics of Lunchbox, I don`t know...Later on nobody reacted on "Made here in MUNICH" during The Dope Show, nor did they know that there was a break in Reflecting God and started with applause, instead of singing (No salvation, no forgivness)...Just pathetic...but it`s not the first time that I see total retards on concerts in Germany, so... The guy from Turbonegro was right fucking all the time with Bavaria...

[Machiavellian]

I have to say, the concert was fuckin' amazing. No complaints here!

The setlist was the same old, but still as great, the crowd, on my side at least, was a-ok ... though true, a lot of people didn't know as much lyrics as they should have, which was kind of annoying - but hey, Manson was on top of it all, in a good mood, especially with that rainbow feather boa thing.

It was, as said, amazing, crowd or not, and Turbonegro was fun, though they're setlist wasn't as satisfying as it could have been.

Still, loved it!

[Flower of Evil]

Does it sound stupid if I asked what you mean with rainbow feather boa?

If so, I won't ask ;P

[Machiavellian]

Does it sound stupid if I asked what you mean with rainbow feather boa?

If so, I won't ask ;P

Well, I meant a rainbow colored feather boa - the thing that somebody threw at him, it's what it looked like to me, at least.

http://www.fun-shop.com/images/17feathersandeyemasks/91055.jpg

[Flower of Evil]

ah thanks for clearing that up ;D

Manson just appeared on MTV News Mag, and they told that Manson was injured because someone threw something at him, and he doesn't know what. Normally people would only throw underwear at him ;D

Can someone from Germany or Austria record the News Mag today 8 pm? I've just seen the last 2 seconds of it...maybe someone can upload it then here. There also was some proshot footage from mOBSCENE I think, at least some seconds. Thank you!

[Flower of Evil]

Was ist das eigentlich für eine Welt? In Deutschland lassen Eltern ihre Kinder verhungern, Frankreichs deklassierte Jugend macht mit Schrotflinten auf sich aufmerksam - und ein singendes Tuschekästchen wie Marilyn Manson wird penetrant als "Schockrocker" bezeichnet.

Das einzige schockierende an dieser Kunstfigur, mit der der ehemalige Musikjournalist Brian Warner seelische Abgründe, amerikanische Albträume und schwarze Romantik verkörpert, ist, dass er als Überbringer schlechter Botschaften von religiösen Eiferern immer noch wie eine Ursache des Übels bekämpft wird. Dabei ist Manson längst im Mainstream angekommen. Seit seinem Auftritt in Michael Moores "Bowling for Columbine" finden ihn auch jene ganz okay, die seinen lärmenden Gothic- und Industrialsound nicht mögen. Umso beachtlicher, wie großartig sein Konzert zum Auftakt einer kurzen Deutschlandtour im Zenith gerät.

Denn zum einen erwidert Manson neuerdings die Zuneigung des Publikums, das er bei seinen ersten Münchner Auftritten gerne mal versetzte oder völlig verpeilt mit Flaschen bewarf, mit der Präsentation seines nackten Hinterns nervte und nach drei Songs stehen ließ.

Der neue Manson dient seine Songs mit all den stinknormalen Konventionen des Stadionrocks an: "Klatsch"-Animation, "Munich"-Anbiederung und "Yeah"Schrei-Wettbewerb inklusive. Andererseits folgt die Show einer grandiosen Dramaturgie, die den Zuschauer im Verlauf der exakt 90-minütigen Darbietung immer tiefer in das Mansonsche Panoptikum des Vernarbten, Verkrüppelten, Grotesken, Bizarren und Morbiden hineinzwingt.

Los geht es hinhaltend langsam mit der eiskalten Todesromanze "If I Was Your Vampire", die auch das aktuelle Album "Eat Me, Drink Me" eröffnet. Manson, mit fluoreszierender Kriegsbemalung, sticht seine Zeilen beim Singen mit einem Mikro in Form eines Fleischermessers in die Luft. Darauf folgt die ältere, trommelgetriebene Abgeh-Nummer "Disposable Teens" und dann überhaupt ein revuehaftes Wechselspiel aus sicheren Publikums-Knallern und Songs, die emblemartig verschiedene Phasen repräsentieren, in denen sich Manson - Kollegin Madonna nicht unähnlich - immer wieder neu erfunden hat.

Jeder Hit ist eine Mini-Theaterinszenierung. Manson singt als Fanatiker vom stilisierten Reichsparteitagspodest, den "Fight Song" bringt er in einem Boxring. Seine Begeisterung fürs Psychedelische am "Alice in Wonderland"-Autor Lewis Carroll fließt als Hörspiel vor dem Song vom Weißen Kaninchen "Are You The Rabbit?" ein. Euphorisierender Schluss ist mit dem von Manson selbst oft kopierten Über-Hit "The Beautiful People".

So endet ein fulminantes Rock-Konzert als Beispiel dafür, wie man ein Publikum unterhält, indem man ihm gibt, was es will - aber seinen Kunstanspruch nicht hinterherwirft. Und - es ist so paradox, dass es schon wieder zu Manson passt - für eineinhalb Stunden ist die Welt im Zenith in Ordnung.

Source: sueddeutsche.de

Translation: It was great! :P

[j_absinthe]

I think this is pretty much the full lenght song / setlist besides (love song, just a car crash away, yamatdm3, EMDM) we will get. It's a shame he doesn't even throw in TGAOG or GBWW.
GBWW maybe, but I really don't think TGAoG really fits the aesthetic of the show...whatever it may be.

That or Rob just doesn't know how to play the upright bass.

[gabrieltoxic]

i'd go for the "doesn't fit the tour's aesthetic" excuse.
tim can easily play the upright bass while rob just plays his usual bass...

[sPoOkMoOn]

Haha, Flower Of Evil, gutes Review. Don´t be mean to the non-German speakers tho. Not that I am volunteering to translate all of that. All in all it says Manson´s hit the mainstream with the typical rockstar antics (clapping, singalongs and such), but still knows how to entertain throughout the whole show without losing his integrity.

[sPoOkMoOn]

Just saw the late edition of the MTV (Germany) News Mag btw and they were very positive about the show. They also said Manson pleased the crowd and was in top form. There was a short interview in which he said on this tour he´s playing songs ´that mean much to him, no matter if they were singles or not´. Harhar. The ´injury´ was a tiny scratch on his hand btw, nothing major. But yeah - good to see and read some positive reviews.

[Flower of Evil]

the clip of mobscene they showed was incredible - manson's voice, the sound of the band, the look, the stage everything was perfect!

[me_andre]

the clip of mobscene they showed was incredible - manson's voice, the sound of the band, the look, the stage everything was perfect!

Don't say that! Now I wanna see it too. Is it a big clip, or like 15 sec?

[sPoOkMoOn]

the whole news segment about manson was around 5-8 minutes max, and they were mixing interview bits with parts of the songs. the stage, the band and manson's voice were indeed all perfect. I am so glad they seemed to have improved so much since I last saw them at that horrid festival in june.

[bundy]

Can somebody post some pics? A lot of people we`re recording all the time, hopefully some of theme are activ here..;]

[maniac master]

damn, will they show it again on tv?

[DecayingSinner]

Haha, Flower Of Evil, gutes Review. Don´t be mean to the non-German speakers tho. Not that I am volunteering to translate all of that. All in all it says Manson´s hit the mainstream with the typical rockstar antics (clapping, singalongs and such), but still knows how to entertain throughout the whole show without losing his integrity.

With the slight German I am familiar with, that's exactly the emotion and obviously words I got from the show.

[Flower of Evil]

don't know if they show it, they have some great shots...they also showed the curtain drop and Manson scream "Munich" before Disposable Teens...

They said that he exclusively allowed a backstage interview after the show and there he sat on a couch talking about the show (which should be a nosferatu/alice in wonderland-combination) and the injury.

They also told that Manson wears long black underwear because they saw it backstage lying around ;D

[Zombie]

If you want to the Report which was on MTV News Germany click here:

http://www.mtv.de/videos
than click "neues", after that click "14 Videos" and than choose 28.11.2007
and then comes the manson clip.

[maniac master]

cool! thanks!^^

[mar1lynman5on]

If you want to the Report which was on MTV News Germany click here:

http://www.mtv.de/videos
than click "neues", after that click "14 Videos" and than choose 28.11.2007
and then comes the manson clip.

thanks for that.

[maniac master]

can anybody rip it?
i'd like to watch it without any glitches...
my computer seems to be too slow! xD

[Flower of Evil]

I put it on Youtube...EDIT: video removed due copyright issues...assfuckers -.-

[hYdrAAppLe]

I put it on Youtube, sorry for the quality, ripping and converting fucked it up a bit ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUNR5ZdXLkk

yes, that was great! i would die for a tape from the portuguese mobscene performance too, it was one of the most killer and chaotic moments of the night.