JUN 13 2007 - Prague, Czech Republic @ Veletrzni Palace

[filicide]

MARILYN MANSON

June 13th, 2007
Veletrzni Palace
Prague, Czech Republic

Confirmed 'phants for this show:
Bulls, McSpade, Indira, Adamn, Leech King

[McSpade]

i'm confirmed.

[Bulls]

I'll be there for sure. Can't wait.

[Indira]

I'll be there, looking forward to it.

[Adamn]

I will be there too! Hopefully he changes the setlist from time to time.

[Leech King]

See you guys in Prague. And see you here the following day with vids and stuff ;)

[Bulls]

That's the support band for this show:

http://www.vladivojna.com/

[McSpade]

tomorrow....ok, almost today we'll see MM.
can't wait... heheh.

[onlyinmexico]

Is it actually going to be held at Valetrzni Palace or T Mobile Arena? Im totally confused on that. how many people can hold the venue?

[Hazekiah]

That's the support band for this show:

http://www.vladivojna.com/
Bulls, you've always got the goods!

Sounds like the unsuspecting fans are in for a treat...seems pretty fuckin' cool to me! I've never heard of this band -- someone pay attention and let us know what they're like live!! (In particular, lemme know if Queen Amidala makes an appearance.) It's like...electro-funk chick-rawk, or something...I love it!

[Trent-R]

Is it actually going to be held at Valetrzni Palace or T Mobile Arena? Im totally confused on that. how many people can hold the venue?

I'm going...It's in T-Mobile Arena, venue has been changed....I think there will be probably 6-7 thousand people....

[mr_dopehat]

Can't wait for the first reviews.

[reznor891]

Can't wait for the first reviews.

yeah same for me ... !!!

[Heather Weiwes]

I hope that someone record something in audio.

[MoodPoison]

Hmm, i dunno. im not that excited about his most recent concerts, i like to think of them as the warm-up for the mm/slater tour. but still, would be nice to see a glimps of it :)

[maniac master]

I hope that someone record something in audio.
or video? maybe?^^

[Leech King]

Ok guys. Didn't take any recording equipement so no vids or pics from me, sorry. The setlist was the same, although there was "The Love Song" planned before "The Nobodies" but for some unknown reasons they didn't play it(Tim later said that it was because of some technical difficulties, finally he told us to ask Manson himself - I did not do it cause I went home befor M left the venue).

For me, the show was almost perfect. Although MM sterted over 45 minutes later, it was worth waiting. First of all - he's really lost some weight! No slow motion/old grandpa Manson/Ozzy kind of stage movement. It was the good ol' time dancing here, crawling there, showing his naked butt here, raping Tim there kind of Manson. Of course, in the end of the show he seemed totally exhausted, I mean, you just have to see it - Manson singing The Fight Song while laying on the stage and all the time trying to wave his hand or leg to show that he's alive lol
Once again I have to say this - although at the end he barely cought a breath, through the most of the show I felt like in HW era(at least).

Mistaken lyrics? Hell yeah - he turned TGBWW into some weird mix of every single line from this song, BUT it sounded great anyway.

Evan was there all the time, wearing HSG and catchings M's attention all the time - he was sending her kisses and pointing his finger at her while singing certain love-themed lyrics.

I will say what most of people here say after his recent shows - he seems to be into performing again. He seems really happy on stage.

Tim rocks and whoever says he does not - fuck off. It's true what they say about his IHA - it sounds different, it sounds better. What he does with his guitar during YAMATDM3 is just pure poetry(with Manson'c vocals being a torture at the same time - this song is no good live indeed). Thanks to him even RID sounded really great!

As it comes to vocals - it's hard to say. I always feel that M sounds perfect on the show I'm at. Or maybe this is what I can say to you all - don't watch youtube vids, just go to the show and experience it yourself. I would reccomend being in the first row just in front of Tim(next to me lol) - this guarantees a lot of action, if you know what I mean.


_____edit

It seems that the autumn/winter european tour is almost certain - Tim told us after the show that they were coming to Poland this fall.

Oh, and the supporting band was fuckin awesome!


Images from Czech press:
http://i.idnes.cz/07/062/maxi/KOT1bb1fa_manson_7.jpg
http://i.idnes.cz/07/062/maxi/KOT1bb1fa_manson_6.jpg
http://i.idnes.cz/07/062/maxi/KOT1bb1fa_manson_8.jpg
http://i.idnes.cz/07/062/maxi/KOT1bb1f9_manson_5.jpg
http://i.idnes.cz/07/062/maxi/KOT1bb1f9_manson_4.jpg
http://i.idnes.cz/07/062/maxi/KOT1bb1f9_manson_3.jpg
http://i.idnes.cz/07/062/maxi/KOT1bb1f8_manson_2.jpg
http://i.idnes.cz/07/062/maxi/KOT1bb1f8_manson_1.jpg

[GermanLoner]

Thanks a lot for your review.
I can't wait to see them in Dortmund and maybe even a second time, when they might come back in fall.

[Leech King]

More:
http://1.im.cz/n/photo//09/86/97ywgca-gallerylarge.jpg
http://1.im.cz/n/photo//09/86/91uvwlf-gallerylarge.jpg
http://1.im.cz/n/photo//09/86/93rdgyo-gallerylarge.jpg
http://1.im.cz/n/photo//09/86/94byjcb-gallerylarge.jpg
http://1.im.cz/n/photo//09/86/92ndivy-gallerylarge.jpg
http://1.im.cz/n/photo//09/86/95jpcrf-gallerylarge.jpg
http://1.im.cz/n/photo//09/86/96aaagf-gallerylarge.jpg

[Nil Three]

Those last two pics are really awesome, thanks for sharing.

[mr_dopehat]

Thanks for the review!

And great pictures (:

[die Zwillinge]

Wow! Those are great pics!

The first thing I thought after reading your post was, "How did he manage to talk to Tim?" because everyone who has said they met him says he's an ass, or that he just doesn't speak at all. Just curious how that all happened. Too bad you didn't get to speak to Manson. If that's true that they're returning to Europe in the fall, I wonder what that means for Phantasmagoria? Hmmmm...


--T

[Iphigora]

^ Really I've heard some stories where people don't like him, and other's where he's a really nice guy. I can bet he's sarcastic, or something that just rubs some people the wrong way, and others not.

Thank you for the pictures. :)

[die Zwillinge]

^True. Possibly, he just reflects how people act towards him. I tend to give the cold shoulder to people who annoy me when I first meet them, so yeah...

Great site you've got, BTW.

--T

[Iphigora]

^ That's kinda how I think it is, I can't see him as a dick to be a dick. I'm not nice to people if they aren't nice to me when I first met them.

thank you, it's a labor of love.

[K1313]

^True. Possibly, he just reflects how people act towards him. I tend to give the cold shoulder to people who annoy me when I first meet them, so yeah...
Great site you've got, BTW.
--T
^ That's kinda how I think it is, I can't see him as a dick to be a dick. I'm not nice to people if they aren't nice to me when I first met them.
thank you, it's a labor of love.

Girls, you know how I love Tim and respect him, but I think that you really see him like an angel. I met him 3 times (and saw him 5 times in backstage between 2003 and 2007, but 2 times without managing to really meet him), I saw him really nice and I saw him in an other kind of mood. He's human, not perfect, he can be nice but he can hurt people too. I know some people who had bad experiences with him, and they weren't dicks with him. Ask the photographer Maddy Julien for example.

I remember reading on a KMFDM website that he was known for being a moody person. After seeing him 5 times, I think that's the truth.

[Indira]

I can only agree with what leech king already said - great photos by the way.

Manson was in good condition and very active onstage. Voice sounded great to me. Sometimes it seemed he was pissed about something (throwing the mic stand) but in general he was in a good mood I think.
He threw his microphone into the crwod once, and his bodyguard had to try to get it back saying something like "I'll get you backstage passes when you get me the mic".
I managed to stand in first row this time, which made me enjoy the show even more. On the side of the stage you could see Evan and Erin. While HSG was played Evan came to the side of the stage with her glasses on. But I don't think it is a part of the show, more some kind of play between the two.

If anyone has any good videos of the show that are not on youtube, please pm me, my boyfriend has some stuff you could have in return.

[Iphigora]

Girls, you know how I love Tim and respect him, but I think that you really see him like an angel. I met him 3 times (and saw him 5 times in backstage between 2003 and 2007, but 2 times without managing to really meet him), I saw him really nice and I saw him in an other kind of mood. He's human, not perfect, he can be nice but he can hurt people too. I know some people who had bad experiences with him, and they weren't dicks with him. Ask the photographer Maddy Julien for example.

I remember reading on a KMFDM website that he was known for being a moody person. After seeing him 5 times, I think that's the truth.

Oh I don't expect sweetness and light from him 27/7/365. If he was that way, I'd be scared of him and think he's a cyborg. And I know, I've talked to Maddy. She's a good woman. I wonder which KMFDM website I think I've read them all. . .looking for information.And I don't remember reading that, then again I don't commit everything to memory.

[Bulls]

Tim after the show (sorry for the quality, it's from my cell phone):

http://www.ximages.us/thumbs/default/DSC03269.JPG (http://www.ximages.us/imge.php?get=DSC03269.JPG)

http://www.ximages.us/thumbs/default/DSC03272.JPG (http://www.ximages.us/imge.php?get=DSC03272.JPG)

[Iphigora]

Thanks Bulls mind if I steal them for my site?

[Bulls]

Valdivojna was quite good, but a bit boring. I liked her just because she was singing and acting like Nina Hagen.

Manson was showing his old butt all the time which was funny. The other funny thing is that he started singing GBWW from the lines "And hell was so cold..". I don't think it was on purpose. Then he sang the first verse when he should do a second one.

He fell on stage during one song and some people gave him the oxygen. He was really exhausted. During the last song he was mostly laying on that big chair, while trying to sing/scream some verses.

The confetti effect on The Beautiful People is mind-blowing. He was singing this song dressed in something that looked like a white hoodie. Most of the show he was wearing a weird-looking shirt (it looked like a black bag). The guitars were a bit too loud, sometimes buzzing. Musically, HSG was the most weak performance. YAMATM3 sounded weird but quite good. The best songs were IIWYV, PHIH and JACCA - maybe because they are new to me and I've heard all the others on previous tours.

We were waiting for Manson near the buses but he didn't show up. Instead we were shouting for Tim and he decided to give us some autographs. And that's the happy end of the story.

I haven't slept for 33 hours, so I was exhausted too. But I took a nap in the bus, while coming back to Poland.

Summarizing: the show was great. I'm really happy I had a chance to experience it. :)

Thanks Bulls mind if I steal them for my site?

Ok, feel free to use it. :)

[Iphigora]

Thanks! it has a thank you and a link to your site. :)

[SmellsLikeOmega]

Valdivojna was quite good, but a bit boring. I liked her just because she was singing and acting like Nina Hagen.

Manson was showing his old butt all the time which was funny. The other funny thing is that he started singing GBWW from the lines "And hell was so cold..". I don't think it was on purpose. Then he sang the first verse when he should do a second one.

He fell on stage during one song and some people gave him the oxygen. He was really exhausted. During the last song he was mostly laying on that big chair, while trying to sing/scream some verses.

The confetti effect on The Beautiful People is mind-blowing. He was singing this song dressed in something that looked like a white hoodie. Most of the show he was wearing a weird-looking shirt (it looked like a black bag). The guitars were a bit too loud, sometimes buzzing. Musically, HSG was the most weak performance. YAMATM3 sounded weird but quite good. The best songs were IIWYV, PHIH and JACCA - maybe because they are new to me and I've heard all the others on previous tours.

We were waiting for Manson near the buses but he didn't show up. Instead we were shouting for Tim and he decided to give us some autographs. And that's the happy end of the story.

I haven't slept for 33 hours, so I was exhausted too. But I took a nap in the bus, while coming back to Poland.

Summarizing: the show was great. I'm really happy I had a chance to experience it. :)

WOW, sounds like this was an awesome performance. How did it compare to your previous Manson concerts?

[Leech King]

http://home.elka.pw.edu.pl/~jbloch/mm/track.jpg

Here's the setlist, although they didn't play The Love Song for some reason.


And yes, it's Skold's autograph. :D

The setlist isn't mine, my friend got it from one of the MM staff members after the show.

[Iphigora]

^I'm jealous of your friend.

[Leech King]

^I'm jealous of your friend.

"I gues that I am, too..."


I got my ticket signed by Tim and I managed to ask him some questions.

Just like others said - Manson didn't show up. But he threw me his bottle of water which kind of saved my life at the end of the show.

"..again!"

[Iphigora]

^See Pm, you're very lucky. :)

[DecayingSinner]

What beautiful shots!

[john_22_33]

Thanks for the photos. I think the knife its getting bigger!!

[Adamn]

So, back from the Prague show.
It was a nice one. Nothing has changed in the setlist as you already know and all songs seemed pretty powerful live, beside "If I Was Your Vampire" in my opinion, I don't like that song. Manson was in a very good mood.

Despite of some people, who think "You And Me And The Devil Makes 3" is not very exciting to hear live, i like it very much. But judge for yourself.

There you go .... You And Me And The Devil Makes 3 (http://uploaded.to/?id=sh27d3)

Pleeze respect and appreciate that I show only 1 song at this time. It was really a pain in the ass to record this one. I was too close to the stage and who has ever been to a Manson concert knows, that a lot is going on there ;)
If I want to show more, I will, so don't ask.
This is only in mp3 format (I prefer lossless), because I think for some people its easier to download because of the filesize.

Enjoy!

[mr_dopehat]

Wow great quality of You and me and the devil makes 3! thanks :-)

[Zombie]

Great Quality ! Am i allowed to ask you how you recorded it ?!

[j_absinthe]

Those damn pants!

[Zombie]

Those damn pants!


What do you mean ?!

[j_absinthe]

What do you mean ?!
I hate them, that's all.

[Leech King]

Thanks for the recording. It's a pity that Skold's guitar is almost inaudible in the end here because it was fuckin' awesome, especially when he was using the fiddlestick.

There's something on youtube but the quality sucks.

IHA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iUHpOJooSx0

INTRO and few secs of IIWYV(that's a bit better)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IDYT6uC6qLo

THE SAME
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZtGfUX8lWo

HAHA hearing those recordings makes me love the devil mp3

[Indira]

I just watched them, they really suck, I just hope there will be better videos.

[Leech King]

I just watched them, they really suck, I just hope there will be better videos.

I hope so, cause that IIWYV, although being really shitty, gave me some hope that Manson singing well on this show isn't just a figment of my imagination.



The reviews in Czech press are...crushing.

[Indira]

leech king - what do they say?

here is part of the beautiful people, filmed from near :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABU2vvZn24E

[Trent-R]

leech king - what do they say?

here is part of the beautiful people, filmed from near :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABU2vvZn24E

they say it was boring, without energy...

[Leech King]

leech king - what do they say?

here is part of the beautiful people, filmed from near :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABU2vvZn24E

Wow the vocals sound really good and it's the end of the show!!!!!!

Let's hope that Adamn doesn't have much to do in his free time and we'll get some more ;)

[Rammaz]

i love the pics... the way light seems to "get out" from the knife !
thanx for posting!

thanx also to reviewers !

EDIT: i just listened the audio recording of "You and Me and the Devil Makes 3" live, i like a lot ! thank you Adamn !!

[Leech King]

BP
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RCBd96JyUao
TFS
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7rc-liyQU

I can say one thing. I need a god (a)damn ;) bootleg from this show!

[maniac master]

I can say one thing. I need a god (a)damn ;) bootleg from this show!
we all want a bootleg!^^

thanks for everything(review, setlist, etc.), especially for the pics!
they're the best live-pics i've seen from this tour!

[onlyinmexico]

So, back from the Prague show.
It was a nice one. Nothing has changed in the setlist as you already know and all songs seemed pretty powerful live, beside "If I Was Your Vampire" in my opinion, I don't like that song. Manson was in a very good mood.

Despite of some people, who think "You And Me And The Devil Makes 3" is not very exciting to hear live, i like it very much. But judge for yourself.

There you go .... You And Me And The Devil Makes 3 (http://uploaded.to/?id=sh27d3)

Pleeze respect and appreciate that I show only 1 song at this time. It was really a pain in the ass to record this one. I was too close to the stage and who has ever been to a Manson concert knows, that a lot is going on there ;)
If I want to show more, I will, so don't ask.
This is only in mp3 format (I prefer lossless), because I think for some people its easier to download because of the filesize.

Enjoy!


Thanks man! It sounds really great!

[Adamn]

One more:
Heart-Shaped Glasses (http://uploaded.to/?id=79nmwz)

Ok, I'm off -> Novarock.

[onlyinmexico]

One more:
Heart-Shaped Glasses (http://uploaded.to/?id=79nmwz)

Cool! I like this song live.

[die Zwillinge]

Girls, you know how I love Tim and respect him, but I think that you really see him like an angel. I met him 3 times (and saw him 5 times in backstage between 2003 and 2007, but 2 times without managing to really meet him), I saw him really nice and I saw him in an other kind of mood. He's human, not perfect, he can be nice but he can hurt people too. I know some people who had bad experiences with him, and they weren't dicks with him. Ask the photographer Maddy Julien for example.

I remember reading on a KMFDM website that he was known for being a moody person. After seeing him 5 times, I think that's the truth.

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but...

No, not really an angel. I expect him to be a person just like everyone else. I know there are days when I am a complete bitch and don't want to be around other people. I give everyone I meet one chance to impress me, as I usually am a very good judge of character. But, to be completely honest, after reading that he has made fun of fans/hurt their feelings, etc., I don't know that I'd want to take that chance. I would probably stand back and observe before I approached him--and not just Tim, anybody in his position. I would hate like Hell to simply want to make someone's acquaintance and tell them that I appreciate/admire their work only to be blown off or even worse, laughed at. Fortunately, all the people in bands that I have met have been very decent and cool, and in good moods. Too bad Sascha didn't rub off on him more in that departement.


--T

[SalaamDementia]

I thank you for having an intelligent view on this, people seem to be lacking an understanding. Personally, I think you (any Manson/Tim fan) shouldn't expect anything more than an awesome show - which has been delivered almost every single night of this tour. Tim and the rest of the band are up there for you, for your enjoyment. I think expecting anything more than that is greed.

I'll be very honest, and more than likely piss people off for it. But I think that firstly, you're expecting far too much of Tim. I can't imagine how annoying it must be to play a show, then be tired and just wanting to go to the hotel/bus whatever - and you're attacked by fans. I'd be in a sour mood as well. Again, the only thing Tim or anyone in Manson owes us is to get onstage and play a good show.

And those of you who are lucky enough to meet Tim in an appropriate setting, and then are offended by him - I think you're taking him far too seriously. If you read through transcripts from when he was in mdfmk and posted - he was sarcastic near constantly. He seems to have a darker, more sarcastic sense of humor and you're all getting offended by it. Honestly, most of the things that you've been upset by - would make me laugh if he said it to me.

I don't know Tim, I don't know you, but these are simply my opinions and point of view. I just think you should be a bit more grateful.

-nay

[Leech King]

One more:
Heart-Shaped Glasses (http://uploaded.to/?id=79nmwz)

Ok, I'm off -> Novarock.

We thank thee! Oh smight us with another one, almighty smighter! ;)

[Indira]

One more:
Heart-Shaped Glasses (http://uploaded.to/?id=79nmwz)

Ok, I'm off -> Novarock.

Thank you so much ;)

[Caym]

http://www.poslouchej.net/fotky-Fotky-z-koncertu-Marilyn-Mansona-675-1.html

Picture Report :)

[Indira]

Caym thanks for posting, these are the most beautiful live pics I've seen so far.

http://photo.ringo.com/217/217664614O745642924.jpg

[Rammaz]

^ my thoughts exactly ! it's an awesome picture !

[Caym]

:)

glad you like it

[Caym]

http://www.mix.cz/fotogalerie.asp?id=732&styl=0

*another foto report

[Norsefire]

http://www.mix.cz/fotogalerie/Manson_070613/20.jpg
Is that a Celebritarian Ring on Skolds Finger?

[Iphigora]

It is, There have been a few pictures with him wearing it. That's the most predominate one I've seen so far. I wasn't sure now I am.

[Shane]

More great pictures. Love 'em.

[K1313]

http://www.mix.cz/fotogalerie/Manson_070613/20.jpg
Is that a Celebritarian Ring on Skolds Finger?

LOL ! Skold makes me scared in that picture ! he looks insane.

By the way, he wears a different outfit every night.

[DecayingSinner]

I love these pictures. Manson with the knife is amazing!

[gabrieltoxic]

http://www.mix.cz/fotogalerie/Manson_070613/20.jpg
Is that a Celebritarian Ring on Skolds Finger?
wow
someone needs to dye their roots :P

[Trent-R]

The Nobodies.....not made by me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm9PyT-EkwU&NR=1

[Caym]

Another report ...

http://www.partypeople.cz/article/?rowid=1839

[Bulls]

Another photo with Skold:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1286/13062007pragueczech81lw4.jpg