Do the instrumentists from Marilyn Manson really play at concerts ? [Archive]

ghost_chr

12-13-2006, 03:14 PM

I mean does Skold really plays the guitar ? Or is it just a negative that plays ? I hope this question isn't stupid.. but I faced quite some strange questions like this and I had the impression that the band members are not really playing the instuments... I dunno', well I think that at least Ginger Fish does it but how about the others.. ?

LittleHorn1053

12-13-2006, 03:17 PM

Im pretty sure everyone plays their instrument during live shows.

ghost_chr

12-13-2006, 03:20 PM

I hope so.. but I'm not so sure.. maybe it's just me.. I watched some concerts for example RAR 2003 and there's when I put myself this question..

bimpnotton

12-13-2006, 04:17 PM

They all play their instruments live.
The only one who really doesn't play any instruments live or in his music videos is Manson. He does not know how to play guitar ;).

And if you ever question Pogo's playing live, there are lots of sound clips and samples in MM songs. Hell, Antichrist superstar sounds like a Nine Inch Nails album with Manson's vox to me. Keeping in mind that Trent DID record alot of the synths and guitars on that album.

rolling_suicide

12-13-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by bimpnotton
He does not know how to play guitar ;)
He does know how to play guitar, just very very badly. He played guitar on some songs, such as coma white, on the tours for Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals.
Manson twatting his guitar aimlessly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3lgG4Rcfi4)

vht

12-13-2006, 08:33 PM

Of course they play. The only stuff that they don't play is the overdubs.

Nil Three

12-13-2006, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by ghost_chr
I hope so.. but I'm not so sure.. maybe it's just me.. I watched some concerts for example RAR 2003 and there's when I put myself this question..

Pogo broke his wrist around the time that tour started, so a good number of his parts were sampled. But usually everything live really is live except a few things (like hi-hat loops) that Pogo triggers.

GunsOfBrixton

12-18-2006, 12:06 AM

Yes, everything is live, and that should've been painfully obvious a la Mark Chaussee and Zim Zum.

Damian

12-18-2006, 12:24 AM

Or when John5 got kicked :)

Synyster Gates

12-18-2006, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by rolling_suicide
He does know how to play guitar, just very very badly. He played guitar on some songs, such as coma white, on the tours for Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals.
Manson twatting his guitar aimlessly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3lgG4Rcfi4)

Thanks for posting that.

Welovehate

12-18-2006, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by GunsOfBrixton
Yes, everything is live, and that should've been painfully obvious a la Mark Chaussee and Zim Zum.

in that case I LIKE PAIN
that's a live show damn you non-rock people!

Antioch

12-28-2006, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by bimpnotton
They all play their instruments live.
The only one who really doesn't play any instruments live or in his music videos is Manson. He does not know how to play guitar ;).

And if you ever question Pogo's playing live, there are lots of sound clips and samples in MM songs. Hell, Antichrist superstar sounds like a Nine Inch Nails album with Manson's vox to me. Keeping in mind that Trent DID record alot of the synths and guitars on that album.

OMFG...they all play live and they play for realllll... and btw MM knows hoe to play guitar..but badly as spoken already here, you can see him playing it also on dried up, tied and dead to the world....he played it also on coma white as said....

EDIT: look at the personal jesus video- he plays it ther too...not live..

EDIT 2: maybe they should´ve put playback when mark played it...lol, but still live is live, and they play all :)

TimothySkold6

12-31-2006, 08:14 AM

Everything but overdubs and Marilyn Manson playing the sax on the Grotesk Burlesk tour. That was Pogo.

Ant|P0pe

12-31-2006, 11:52 AM

he also play on Minute of Decay on DttW tour.

here it is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUF_k_WXbcE)

wormboy0

12-31-2006, 02:02 PM

he also does guitar on down in the park. but the way he strums makes it look fake. but by the cd version of the song it sounds like that would need two guitars to make it feel that heavy.

wormboy0

12-31-2006, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by TimothySkold6
Everything but overdubs and Marilyn Manson playing the sax on the Grotesk Burlesk tour. That was Pogo.
wow i thought manson actually played that. did he sample that on the aag tour too? cause they played that in chicago and he got out the sax for the end. sorry for posting twice in a row like this.

Antioch

01-04-2007, 05:07 AM

If u are reffering to the golden afge of grotesque song..at the end manson does pull the sax out and blows in it for couple of mins...and produces catstrophic and annoying sounds... i kinda dont like it, althought it suites the song in my opinion LOL

v4MP1r3

01-06-2007, 10:58 AM

doubt they for real...
I sometimes can hear some mistakes, and that should be that "yeah, they play live" ...

damm, I wasnt on any concert so I cant say much things about this...

Antioch

02-15-2007, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by v4MP1r3
doubt they for real...
I sometimes can hear some mistakes, and that should be that "yeah, they play live" ...

damm, I wasnt on any concert so I cant say much things about this...

oh cmon...u dont have to be on shows to know that they play for real..for example..listen or watch the RAR 03 show..sweet dreams or b people..so u will understand :)

S.D.

02-15-2007, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by bimpnotton
They all play their instruments live.
The only one who really doesn't play any instruments live or in his music videos is Manson. He does not know how to play guitar ;).
.

Thats wrong, he's just not very good at it, but has played live, especially on the antichrist tour... for example....

Dried up... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKMgFHOhiac&mode=related&search=)

alucardthe13th

02-17-2007, 12:50 PM

He played guitar live on Top of the Pops back in September 2004 for Personal Jesus promo:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/show_snaps/weekly_images/20040917_marilyn_manson1.jpg

Antioch

02-18-2007, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by alucardthe13th
He played guitar live on Top of the Pops back in September 2004 for Personal Jesus promo:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/show_snaps/weekly_images/20040917_marilyn_manson1.jpg

i would so like to see that vid..bcz i never saw him with guitar during pjesus..if anyone got it please post it

edit: saw it on youtube..it kinda sucks but cool to see aspecailly bcz skold has gretsch with bigsgy :)

ditame

02-18-2007, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by alucardthe13th
He played guitar live on Top of the Pops back in September 2004 for Personal Jesus promo:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/show_snaps/weekly_images/20040917_marilyn_manson1.jpg

I thought that show was played to a backing track, if my memory serves me correctly.

But to the original question - everyone plays live except the overdubs, as has been pointed out. And Antioch - I agree with the sax, very painful to listen to but in some ways neccesary.

Antioch

02-18-2007, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by ditame
I thought that show was played to a backing track, if my memory serves me correctly.

But to the original question - everyone plays live except the overdubs, as has been pointed out. And Antioch - I agree with the sax, very painful to listen to but in some ways neccesary.

yep :)

Scissors

02-21-2007, 02:25 AM

we're not talking about Milli Vanilli or whatever their names were.

thats Daft if MM dosent play live. OFCOURSE HE FUCKING DOES. Twiggy used to fuck up constantly, and MM's voice declined in the years, hope he dosent end up as another Maria Callas!

kevin

02-23-2007, 01:15 AM

It is true that Manson has been on stage with a guitar before,
but it is usually so low in the mix that it is mainly used as a visual effect.

Nil Three

02-23-2007, 02:04 PM

i would so like to see that vid..bcz i never saw him with guitar during pjesus..if anyone got it please post it

edit: saw it on youtube..it kinda sucks but cool to see aspecailly bcz skold has gretsch with bigsgy :)

The personal jesus tv performances with both Skold and Manson on guitar and no bassist are mimed.

He played guitar (for real) on the DTTW tour for Dried Up and Minute of Decay.

Lucifer_The_Dar

02-23-2007, 02:14 PM

None of them plays live & Manson mimes to backing tapes ;)

tetragrammutate

02-23-2007, 02:30 PM

Top of the Pops has consistently been mimed by all artists, really poorly.

And if nobody played their instruments, Manson may as well just go back to using a drum machine. A big reason why they got rid of it was because of how it limited their performance. There was no room for spontaneity or prolonged bridges or anything like that whatsoever, which drives certain songs like My Monkey.

HaTeRaPeR

02-23-2007, 03:27 PM

Is this thread for real?? ... oh god ...

Nil Three

02-24-2007, 12:54 AM

None of them plays live & Manson mimes to backing tapes ;)

That isn't actually true, as you will garner from any Youtube videos of Zim Zum or Mark (J5 is actually a machine built in a human body.) Just on the PJ videos.

ditame

02-24-2007, 07:50 AM

None of them plays live & Manson mimes to backing tapes ;)

Are you for real!?!

Antioch

03-11-2007, 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=Lucifer_The_Dar;1048772]None of them plays live & Manson mimes to backing tapes ;)[
/QUOTE]

Are you for real!?!

eh..dont even try...btw nice thing u have done with ur web pages..both of them..

Shangri-LIE

03-11-2007, 03:11 PM

They do play them live.

Not to say that they always mess up live, but here one example..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfNRKe0AeSI

Edit again - For fucks sake man, can you NOT hear it? Not the screw up. But live, you can USUALLY tell a real performance from one that is recorded and played over a P.A.