NEW Manson Apparel- Sweater [Archive] - The Heirophant Council

Norsefire

09-08-2006, 09:54 PM

OK so im a sucker for anything new and I will always line mansons pocket, I WANT ONE. whaaaaaa

Originally posted by Pigist Christ
Oh shit. Thanks!

I like that hoodie, and that quote.

Yer that quote is so simple yet so powerful,

Theres another double cross on there aswell. SWEEET

Well if you zoom in hes still going with that kind of screen printed edge look. possible more text on the edge where that white bit is just like on the celebritarian shirt. Also there is loads of rings in the background and on the MM logo for the reverse. Its looks kind of basic but I like it.

Pigist Christ

09-08-2006, 10:06 PM

I'm wondering to why they're using both the MM logo and the MMC logo in some other shirts/webdesigns.

I Want that hoodie, but 47 bucks is a lot :(

AliceInOz

09-08-2006, 10:09 PM

i know i havent bought any manson merchandise in years but.....it would take alot to get me to wear that......and i dont know about that quote either.....

Norsefire

09-08-2006, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Pigist Christ
I'm wondering to why they're using both the MM logo and the MMC logo in some other shirts/webdesigns.

I Want that hoodie, but 47 bucks is a lot :(

Yer I dunno, maybe he will use both when the time comes. The double cross t shirt even has GAOG style Ms on it.

Coma_Black_8

09-08-2006, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by AliceInOz
and i dont know about that quote either.....

It sounded a little strange on first read, but it definately has a certain charm to it. I like it!

villain_rabbit

09-08-2006, 10:11 PM

*starts counting change*

im so getting one.

Burlesk

09-08-2006, 10:12 PM

Nice.

AliceInOz

09-08-2006, 10:18 PM

It sounded a little strange on first read, but it definately has a certain charm to it. I like it!

Its a long way from "we hate love we love hate" and "if you meet your master today, kill him"

Norsefire

09-08-2006, 10:22 PM

Its talking about the CC the new manson, the new direction.

AliceInOz

09-08-2006, 10:23 PM

indeed.....but it doesnt have the same impact really.....

villain_rabbit

09-08-2006, 10:31 PM

sounds pretentious

Pigist Christ

09-08-2006, 10:48 PM

It sounds empowering to me.

TERROJA

09-08-2006, 10:53 PM

I'm glad the quote is about self-empowerment rather than self-deprecation.

Macabre

09-08-2006, 11:09 PM

Who is this "we", his fans? I never knew we were a part of a secret society. I never like his hoodies because they are always decorated with such big and blatant pics/quotes. He can never come out with anything discreet or subtle. I won't be buying that.

Norsefire

09-08-2006, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by Macabre
Who is this "we", his fans? I never knew we were a part of a secret society. I never like his hoodies because they are always decorated with such big and blatant pics/quotes. He can never come out with anything discreet or subtle. I won't be buying that. I think its the CC

EDIT I like your sig.

Macabre

09-08-2006, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by herr>D0kter
EDIT I like your sig. [/B]

As I yours. What film is that woman from?

Norsefire

09-08-2006, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Macabre
As I yours. What film is that woman from?

its from a uk show "Footballers wives" shes hazel bailey and takes not shit from anyone, her saying is "men for buisness, women for pleasure".

Macabre

09-08-2006, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by herr>D0kter
its from a uk show "Footballers wives" shes hazel bailey and takes not shit from anyone, her saying it "men for buisness, women for pleasure".
She sounds like my kind of woman. haha

Komaschwarz

09-09-2006, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by Pigist Christ
It sounds empowering to me.

It doesn't seem to be empowering to me; It is clever wordplay however:

"We don't believe in credibility because we are incredible." I think that the implication is in opposition to the surface of the quotation.

TERROJA

09-09-2006, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by Komaschwarz
It doesn't seem to be empowering to me; It is clever wordplay however:

"We don't believe in credibility because we are incredible." I think that the implication is in opposition to the surface of the quotation.

I guess it could reflect either mindset, but you seem to be taking the wordplay a step further than it was intended.

Pigist Christ

09-09-2006, 12:16 AM

That's actually even cooler now that you pointed out the possible wordplay.

Komaschwarz

09-09-2006, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by TERROJA
I guess it could reflect either mindset, but you seem to be taking the wordplay a step further than it was intended.

Maybe. But with the same root and in such close proximity, I doubt it was not intentional.

The prefix 'in' does mean 'not' after all: incompetent, infallible, infinity, ineffable. It all means 'not': not competent, not fallible, not finite, not effable, etc...

I’m not shutting out the other possibility entirely though; I’m not going to make a set in stone judgement over one quotation of a single sweatshirt, it's just my initial take on it.

EDIT: The other prefix 'in' just means 'intensively' such as in 'inflammable', but I didn't bring that up, as it doesn't seem relevant.

Calculations

09-09-2006, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by villain_rabbit
sounds pretentious

It's. Marilyn. Fucking. Manson.

HollowHate

09-09-2006, 12:25 AM

...Anyone else feel wierd about all these new "official" shirts and what not, when Manson's own page doesn't have any news or anything on it?... I don't know, i really want to get some new manson shit to but like,... They just don't seem official to me. :-/

fug

09-09-2006, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by HollowHate
...Anyone else feel wierd about all these new "official" shirts and what not, when Manson's own page doesn't have any news or anything on it?... I don't know, i really want to get some new manson shit to but like,... They just don't seem official to me. :-/

Not really. If Manson doesn't want to promote his shirts then that's another issue altogether but traders like hot topic wouldn't pop up with shirts about Celebritarianism etc. as a con because the mainstream is largely unaware of the idea for an art movement.

There would be no market for fake shirts with slogans brand new and incorporating new imagery. They say copyright of giant merchandise on them. I think, beyond reasonable doubt, they're official.

Komaschwarz

09-09-2006, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by fug

There would be no market for fake shirts with slogans brand new and incorporating new imagery. They say copyright of giant merchandise on them. I think, beyond reasonable doubt, they're official. [/B]

Not to mention it's the work of Perou.

http://i8.tinypic.com/4cberzq.jpg

http://i4.tinypic.com/44gsgi0.jpg

HollowHate

09-09-2006, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by fug
Not really. If Manson doesn't want to promote his shirts then that's another issue altogether but traders like hot topic wouldn't pop up with shirts about Celebritarianism etc. as a con because the mainstream is largely unaware of the idea for an art movement.

There would be no market for fake shirts with slogans brand new and incorporating new imagery. They say copyright of giant merchandise on them. I think, beyond reasonable doubt, they're official.

Yeah, thats what i some what thought, but like, its hard to believe all that official shit came from just a few updates and no like,...real thought out updates on the next album or anything... either way, im holding off on a new manson shirt for awhile.

Pigist Christ

09-09-2006, 12:41 AM

With that closeup Koma posted, now I'm wondering is the design in the frame meant to hint towards something.

Komaschwarz

09-09-2006, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by Pigist Christ
With that closeup Koma posted, now I'm wondering is the design in the frame meant to hint towards something.

Most of the rings he is wearing bear a skull or skull & crossbones, so that is a rather visible black death reference.

Norsefire

09-09-2006, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by Komaschwarz
Not to mention it's the work of Perou.

http://i8.tinypic.com/4cberzq.jpg

http://i4.tinypic.com/44gsgi0.jpg

I wonder if Perou knows about it this time?

notice its popart screen print style, I dont get the rings on the backing and on the m's maybe its just some surface design.

Calculations

09-09-2006, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by Komaschwarz
Most of the rings he is wearing bear a skull or skull & crossbones, so that is a rather visible black death reference.

I've seen so many fucking Skull/crossbones on clothing items at school.

What is it called again? The skull/crossbones symbol I mean.

Norsefire

09-09-2006, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by Calculations
I've seen so many fucking Skull/crossbones on clothing items at school.

What is it called again? The skull/crossbones symbol I mean.

a deaths head or Totenkopft

Calculations

09-09-2006, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by herr>D0kter
a deaths head or Totenkopft

Right, but I mean the one that pirates use.

Norsefire

09-09-2006, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Calculations
Right, but I mean the one that pirates use.

do you mean the jolly roger flag.

Calculations

09-09-2006, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by herr>D0kter
do you mean the jolly roger flag.

There you go. Thanks.

Queen_Alice

09-09-2006, 02:18 AM

I'm starting to think that I'll eventually have it IN MY CLUTCHES some time in the fall.

THANX!

930yearoldadam

09-09-2006, 02:37 AM

Interesting find guys. Haha, I can just imagine Manson singing this line in a Queen-esque way similar to We Will Rock You. Instead of "We are the champions!", "We are incredible!" :D

I really like the word play, as Koma mentioned. I saw it as soon as I read the line. He always comes up with the cleverest little things like this.

Then again, this may just be fake and we could all be praising a line some nobody came up with. Isn't it funny how something can be loved just because it comes from a specific person? Heh.

jester

09-09-2006, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by AliceInOz
Its a long way from "we hate love we love hate" and "if you meet your master today, kill him"

Yeah I remember the good old days when manson shirts stirred tings up. Manson clothing recently has gone down hill.

.new.model.

09-09-2006, 03:31 AM

If it was in t-shirt form...

930yearoldadam

09-09-2006, 03:43 AM

Originally posted by jester
Yeah I remember the good old days when manson shirts stirred tings up. Manson clothing recently has gone down hill.

While I agree that recent merch designs haven't been as creative as the past, I don't think it's because they aren't "stirring things up." I don't need a shirt to have "FUCK" plastered all over it for it to be a cool shirt. As you can see with this new sweater and phrase, you don't need to be vulgar to be clever and meaningful. Sure it's fun to turn people's heads on the street, but that's not really what Manson has only been about. He uses shock to grab people's attention, but there's more to him than that chocolatey coating.

FIGHTMF

09-09-2006, 05:11 AM

That is actually pretty cool. I love the picture and quote.

Gen Appithy

09-09-2006, 06:02 AM

the word play is in the duel meaning of incredible.

something that lacks credibility so that it is not to be believed. versus something that is so amazing that it is beyond belief.

it might be a tounge frimly in cheack refference to all the rumored marilyn manson projects which have yet to seem the light of day begging the question doesn MM have any credibility left?

Norsefire

09-09-2006, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by 930yearoldadam
Interesting find guys. Haha, I can just imagine Manson singing this line in a Queen-esque way similar to We Will Rock You. Instead of "We are the champions!", "We are incredible!" :D

I really like the word play, as Koma mentioned. I saw it as soon as I read the line. He always comes up with the cleverest little things like this.

Then again, this may just be fake and we could all be praising a line some nobody came up with. Isn't it funny how something can be loved just because it comes from a specific person? Heh.

Im sure it will be official, I do keep contacting someone at giant merchandising, they wouldnt tell me if any new manson stuff was coming and when questioned about the 3 t shirts they said they must be tour exclusive. I was like WTF, but yeah im sure this is proper manson and not some boot leggy crap.

This might also be my last post for a while, Catch you all later.

snog

09-09-2006, 07:22 AM

i wouldn't wear that to a dogfight.
hot topic garments are often poorly made;the fabrics can be,many times, quite thin.
one CAN buy name quality brands there,such as doc martens.
i'd never buy anything at this store,however.even to pass by it in the mall causes me great embarrassment.

snog

09-09-2006, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by Calculations
It's. Marilyn. Fucking. Manson.

lol.good point.

Damian

09-09-2006, 08:27 AM

Wow, a hoodie with an old picture. Absolutely fascinating. I think the quote is pretty lame - I don't need to be told what you want to be.

dave303

09-09-2006, 08:34 AM

i prefer his old designs. I always get holywood or acss era clothing.

Sherry

09-09-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Mitternacht
ThiSS (http://www.hottopic.com/store/product.asp?LS=0&ITEM=140864&RN=100) is something new, Its a pull over sweater from hot topic, on the back it says " We don't believe in credibility because we are Incredible".

I thought you meant it was actually a sweater but definitions vary by area so that's okay.
Anyway...I like the quote as well. I also think it's not bad for a hoodie. What I wish is that they would make some new baby doll t-shirts for girls. I don't wear baggy clothes so I wouldn't wear this.

P.S.
I can't believe there are four pages here about a hoodie.
Ha!

Burlesk

09-09-2006, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Komaschwarz
It doesn't seem to be empowering to me; It is clever wordplay however:

"We don't believe in credibility because we are incredible." I think that the implication is in opposition to the surface of the quotation.

And I thought that was fairly obvious; nevertheless, thanks for pointing that out to all the members.

Calculations

09-09-2006, 12:01 PM

Manson should make some Mr. Rogers sweaters.

I want to see a cuddly Manson.

I want to see a owl eat a python.

I want a hug.

Someone save me.

snog

09-09-2006, 12:15 PM

sherry-i think marilyn would look sweet in a baby doll t shirt.
lol on the mr roger's sweaters.that'd be hysterical.

j_absinthe

09-09-2006, 12:52 PM

If that isn't the most out of place model...

CoMa_84

09-09-2006, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by m_absinthe
If that isn't the most out of place model...

You noticed that too huh?

profane

09-09-2006, 02:27 PM

I enjoy the quote, and the original Perou photo, but where is the creativity in this? All MM merchandise is now is a picture of him plastered on the front with some bordering and color. It's just boring.

Just compare the ACSS era merchandise to this. It's down-right pathetic in comparison. Where is the innovation?

Don't get me wrong, this is better than the horrid shirt designs from GAOG, and AAG, but it just seems to be lacking. Sigh.

The last piece of MM merchandise that I have purchased is the rather simplistic MM hoodie with "Marilyn Manson" written in silver on the back toward the bottom. There needs to be more in this direction.

Why not something like the CC logo on the front with their slogan on the back? Simple, but effective.

CoMa_84

09-09-2006, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by profane
I enjoy the quote, and the original Perou photo, but where is the creativity in this? All MM merchandise is now is a picture of him plastered on the front with some bordering and color. It's just boring.

Just compare the ACSS era merchandise to this. It's down-right pathetic in comparison. Where is the innovation?

Don't get me wrong, this is better than the horrid shirt designs from GAOG, and AAG, but it just seems to be lacking. Sigh.

The last piece of MM merchandise that I have purchased is the rather simplistic MM hoodie with "Marilyn Manson" written in silver on the back toward the bottom. There needs to be more in this direction.

Why not something like the CC logo on the front with their slogan on the back? Simple, but effective.

I'd have to disagree with you. The creativity is in the slogan on the hoodie. I just don't think we're looking at it the way we're supposed to. Manson has assumed that people will automatically question the credibility of his "corporation" like we already have so I think this slogan is just his way of covering his ass. I wonder if the quote from the celebritarian tshirt "We will sell our shadows..." and this one are in relation to one another in one of the new songs. New lyrics Maybe?

profane

09-09-2006, 03:15 PM

I said that I like the quote. I was talking about the aesthetic of the design.

blackrainbown

09-09-2006, 03:17 PM

Awful.

CoMa_84

09-09-2006, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by blackrainbown
Awful.

this coming from someone who has a band in their sig that is the epitOME of EMO. EPITOME EMOTIPE.

MsFit

09-09-2006, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by herr>D0kter
OK so im a sucker for anything new and I will always line mansons pocket, I WANT ONE. whaaaaaa

Yer that quote is so simple yet so powerful,

Theres another double cross on there aswell. SWEEET

Well if you zoom in hes still going with that kind of screen printed edge look. possible more text on the edge where that white bit is just like on the celebritarian shirt. Also there is loads of rings in the background and on the MM logo for the reverse. Its looks kind of basic but I like it.

I like the idea of the "double cross" coupled with the saying, "we don't believe in credibility because we are incredible"<-- I don't know if I got it right word for word, but anyway. I like it.

It says, to me, that society is double crossed by "the movement" because credibility means nothing when you are incredible. In another words, who gives a shit about credibility? When something is original, it's credibility can be strongly questioned. Those viewing it can consider it double crossing people.

...and still... I also see what is seen as being on the downside is on the upside. Credibility is questioned. Everyone has their own truth and perceives everyone elses truth as questionable and sometimes unacceptable truth. Incredibly confusing, but accurate.

profane

09-09-2006, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by CoMa_84
this coming from someone who has a band in their sig that is the epitOME of EMO. EPITOME EMOTIPE.
What does her love for The Cure have to do with a poorly designed hoody?

You really aren't very bright, are you?

Pigist Christ

09-09-2006, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by CoMa_84
this coming from someone who has a band in their sig that is the epitOME of EMO. EPITOME EMOTIPE.

The Cure have been a band since 1976, they aren't "emo".

And MsFit, I like your interpretation.

Insect

09-09-2006, 05:03 PM

Sounds like Manson is promoting Glam-esque "fabulosity" "We are incredible" reminds me of, "Everyone is fabulous", that kind of thing, I don't know...

CoMa_84

09-09-2006, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by profane
What does her love for The Cure have to do with a poorly designed hoody?

You really aren't very bright, are you?

I just thought it was funny that a fan of emo would be emo bashing. Kinda hypocritical if ya ask me.

cargo

09-09-2006, 06:01 PM

I'd buy a sweater hoodie if it were a girlie cut type piece of clothing.

Pigist Christ

09-09-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by CoMa_84
I just thought it was funny that a fan of emo would be emo bashing. Kinda hypocritical if ya ask me.

For a "journalist", you apparently suck at doing research.

fug

09-09-2006, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by CoMa_84 New lyrics Maybe?

Perhaps but I think both this quote and the Celebritarian t-shirt one come from the Celebritarian Manifesto. We know there's a manifesto because it was on the website template that was briefly accessible.

blackrainbown

09-09-2006, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Pigist Christ
For a "journalist", you apparently suck at doing research. Journalist? WOW! I thought he was about 13, that's why I didn't reply before.

CoMa_84: I don't live in America, so that emo shit doesn't even apply to me. Believe it or not, there are more cultures than just one.
I just checked your profile, seems like you are 2 years younger than me. Your ignorance is remarkable to say the least.
I really hope you are not planning on being a music journalist, boy, you would starve to death before publishing an article on the local press.

ADingoAteMyBaby

09-09-2006, 06:51 PM

I actually really don't like that shirt. I get it, it's just very corny.

Still nice to see some new apparel around.

Burlesk

09-09-2006, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by blackrainbown
Journalist? WOW! I thought he was about 13, that's why I didn't reply before.

CoMa_84: I don't live in America, so that emo shit doesn't even apply to me. Believe it or not, there are more cultures than just one.
I just checked your profile, seems like you are 2 years younger than me. Your ignorance is remarkable to say the least.
I really hope you are not planning on being a music journalist, boy, you would starve to death before publishing an article on the local press.

Argentinowned!

j_absinthe

09-09-2006, 08:06 PM

Like Arcam said previously, I honestly don't think he takes part in the designing of these shirts. If he did, he would've asked to use Perou's photo of him for the Warhol t-shirt.

itsupthere

09-10-2006, 01:16 AM

I want that hoodie.

pyrox02

09-10-2006, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Pigist Christ
possible wordplay.

This isn't a shot at you, but ARE YOU PEOPLE FUCKING DENSE?

Of course it's wordplay.

EDIT: That goes for Koma also, unless I'm just not seeing precisely what he's getting at. If that's not the case, though, then this doesn't even warrant explanation. Use your brains!

930yearoldadam

09-10-2006, 02:14 AM

Well said, Pyrox.

minos

09-10-2006, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by profane
I said that I like the quote. I was talking about the aesthetic of the design. Agreed. I dont like the design of this one at all.

Tigger

09-10-2006, 03:06 AM

I absolutely love that quote, not because its from Manson I just always love that kind of witty wordplay. If this was shirt then I would probably want to buy it, but that does indeed look awful to be on a hoodie. Though, I did buy the "Babble Babble" hoodie and it looks a lot better in real life than it did when I saw it online so who knows. Defintely I'd only buy that hoodie if I could see it at a store, but i wouldn't order it.

j_absinthe

09-10-2006, 03:49 AM

I think the quote is quite boring. Oooh, Manson, you played words that were easily played upon, SHOCKING!

Feh, next. Get off your ass and put some effort into the merch again, nigga.

930yearoldadam

09-10-2006, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by m_absinthe
I think the quote is quite boring. Oooh, Manson, you played words that were easily played upon, SHOCKING!

Feh, next. Get off your ass and put some effort into the merch again, nigga.

If they are so easily played upon, why hasn't it been done before?

Most play on words are simple. That's what makes them good and makes you think "Why haven't I thought of that before?"

DEDEND

09-10-2006, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by profane
I enjoy the quote, and the original Perou photo, but where is the creativity in this? All MM merchandise is now is a picture of him plastered on the front with some bordering and color. It's just boring.

Just compare the ACSS era merchandise to this. It's down-right pathetic in comparison. Where is the innovation?

Don't get me wrong, this is better than the horrid shirt designs from GAOG, and AAG, but it just seems to be lacking. Sigh.

The last piece of MM merchandise that I have purchased is the rather simplistic MM hoodie with "Marilyn Manson" written in silver on the back toward the bottom. There needs to be more in this direction.

Why not something like the CC logo on the front with their slogan on the back? Simple, but effective.

i also think its the lack of creativity and usually i dont like big pictures/photos on t-shirt its better to keep it minimal and simplistic. anyway i liked "aint nothing but a goth thing" i wanted that one but i dont have it. also the one with kill your parents etc.

tigerlily

09-10-2006, 08:56 PM

off topic a little i think that the circles in the background of the shirt are representing fingerprints.

and looking at it again it could almost be like money. i know the most obvious answer is it is a framed picture, but when you zoom in real close i get the feeling of money....maybe im being crazy

tigerlily

09-10-2006, 09:02 PM

and money has a masonic influence..so i dont think its that far fetched of an idea.

Welovehate

09-10-2006, 09:03 PM

Don't interested in this. Instead This Celebritarian tshirt is well done and i love it (already got it and I am happy).
SKULL AND BONES HELMET
BABALON SYMBOL
SWORDS CROWN
A STRANGE CROSS
RED THAT SEEMS BLOOD
THE ENTIRE FIGURE SEEMS AN EVIL IDOL...

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/transformation/mmcelebritarianshirt.jpg

Leech King

09-11-2006, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by pyrox02
This isn't a shot at you, but ARE YOU PEOPLE FUCKING DENSE?

Of course it's wordplay.

EDIT: That goes for Koma also, unless I'm just not seeing precisely what he's getting at. If that's not the case, though, then this doesn't even warrant explanation. Use your brains!

<crowd goes mad> <applause>

I couldn't have expressed it better.

[psycho]logical

09-11-2006, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Mitternacht
" We don't believe in credibility because we are Incredible".

lol

David Alexander

09-11-2006, 01:48 PM

I like the sweater and the quote , it's IN but I wonder what's that in his left hand ? I'd wear it :)

Gara Ganymede

09-11-2006, 04:47 PM

why always sweaters? Can't they ever bring out Manson shrugs, sensible lengh skirts, cardigans and hoodless jumpers!?

j_absinthe

09-11-2006, 05:12 PM

I'd like a Manson stole.

CoMa_84

09-11-2006, 05:30 PM

Or how about manson flavored spandex?

Mr-Po-Go

09-11-2006, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by profane
I enjoy the quote, and the original Perou photo, but where is the creativity in this? All MM merchandise is now is a picture of him plastered on the front with some bordering and color. It's just boring.

Just compare the ACSS era merchandise to this. It's down-right pathetic in comparison. Where is the innovation?

Don't get me wrong, this is better than the horrid shirt designs from GAOG, and AAG, but it just seems to be lacking. Sigh.

The last piece of MM merchandise that I have purchased is the rather simplistic MM hoodie with "Marilyn Manson" written in silver on the back toward the bottom. There needs to be more in this direction.

Why not something like the CC logo on the front with their slogan on the back? Simple, but effective.

Indeed. I was hoping he'd have paid attention to all the people on here saying "We want a few t-shirts without big pictures of your face and your name in six inch letters".
He does a fine line in slogans and symbols, so I'd like to see those combined into something more minimalistic.

Sherry

09-11-2006, 10:12 PM

I'm still hoping for more variety in the baby doll t shirt selection.

MarchHare

09-11-2006, 11:23 PM

"Beware of God / The lord is a sheppard" - now thats a slogan

I like the new hoodie, (seven pages on one article of clothing...i think that might say something about us fans) the back of it at least. It shows how everyday words can still be twisted into another concept despite being so common. As far as the "We will sell our shadow to those stand within it", is that an original MM saying or is it taken from some other source? It comes across as being quite profound but its hard to tell sometimes whats him and whats from an obscure book or film.

Jaku

09-14-2006, 04:11 PM

Saw this a couple of weeks ago at our local HotTopic (before it hit online). Thought it was pretty sad. The quote looks like they just needed to find something that scenesters would say "Oh! That's pretty Mansonic!" The only thing I like is the slightly psychodelic look to it.
Anyway. The only thing I've seen come out of the "Celebritarian Corp." is a lot of merchandise to get kids' cash. :-/

kay

09-14-2006, 04:55 PM

I'm yet to own a Manson top. Sad but oh so true...I think i'd like to make one.

Norsefire

09-14-2006, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by kay
I'm yet to own a Manson top. Sad but oh so true...I think i'd like to make one.

me aswell, i have been spray painting manson pics for a random project, picking out some of my favs and stenciling them, which you will be able to see on my website in the near future. But i might also wack some logos or something related down the leg of my jeans with spray paint, LOL it colours material so why not.

iwtv

09-14-2006, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Sherry
I'm still hoping for more variety in the baby doll t shirt selection.

No kidding! I love band shirts, but there's never any ones for gals. Go to all the music/Hot Topic stores, and the shirt selection is completely dominated by large and extra large macho shirts. :/

PoisonedCookies

09-16-2006, 12:21 AM

WolfEyes

09-16-2006, 04:10 PM

What the fuck...can't he put out some merchandise without corny ass sloguns and shit all over it?!?

I want the clothes because I'm into the band...not for some "message"

This is the same reason I haven't bought that recent Manson t-shirt they have at Hot Topic that says:

"We will sell our shadow to those stand within it"

and also the reason I didn't buy a cool Mechanical Animals era shirt because it said:

"sex, drugs and rock 'n roll...the way God made it" or something stupid like that

wtf is with these 13 year old rebellion sloguns on every goddamn shirt??!

Insect

09-16-2006, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by WolfEyes
What the fuck...can't he put out some merchandise without corny ass sloguns and shit all over it?!?

I want the clothes because I'm into the band...not for some "message"

This is the same reason I haven't bought that recent Manson t-shirt they have at Hot Topic that says:

"We will sell our shadow to those stand within it"

and also the reason I didn't buy a cool Mechanical Animals era shirt because it said:

"sex, drugs and rock 'n roll...the way God made it" or something stupid like that

wtf is with these 13 year old rebellion sloguns on every goddamn shirt??!

I think we should all adopt your spelling of the word "slogan" (i.e. slogun), it just looks kinda cute...

j_absinthe

09-16-2006, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by WolfEyes
What the fuck...can't he put out some merchandise without corny ass sloguns and shit all over it?!?

I want the clothes because I'm into the band...not for some "message"

This is the same reason I haven't bought that recent Manson t-shirt they have at Hot Topic that says:

"We will sell our shadow to those stand within it"

and also the reason I didn't buy a cool Mechanical Animals era shirt because it said:

"sex, drugs and rock 'n roll...the way God made it" or something stupid like that

wtf is with these 13 year old rebellion sloguns on every goddamn shirt??! I think most 13 year olds can spell "slogan" right.

Generally when I buy band merch (which is very rare) I like a purty picture, a band name, and that's about it. I don't think I own any with "sloguns", or slogans, but I'm not against it. It just isn't for me.

NeoN66

09-17-2006, 06:06 PM

Now some like this hoodie, some don't. We could all say things such as "I don't believe this hoodie, because it's incredibly corny" and so on...

What I want to know is: what's MM's take on this?

Church Owl

09-20-2006, 09:57 AM

I don't really like that slogan =/ don't know why, but it doesn't appeals to me.

fug

09-20-2006, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by NeoN66
Now some like this hoodie, some don't. We could all say things such as "I don't believe this hoodie, because it's incredibly corny" and so on...

What I want to know is: what's MM's take on this?

Well he must have come up with the slogan otherwise the shirt wouldn't exist.

CatInTheDopeHat

09-28-2006, 02:03 AM

47DOLLARS!? OH HELL NO! if i wasnt that pricey id get it, but hot topic is fucking stupid, they over charge, greedy asses. I like another store thats across from it where i live, i think its called 16 theatres? but im not sure, but they have the new celebritian shirts and im getting the one with the cross of lorraine on the front soon.yay!