Phantasmagoria: starring Johnny Depp?

[.new.model.]

The following article was originally posted by Larry Carroll over at MTV.com (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1535466/06292006/story.jhtml):

Marilyn Manson is one weird dude — but if you didn't already know that, well, you haven't been paying attention.

"Do these glasses make my butt look fat?" he joked last weekend as he made a rare appearance at, of all places, Disneyland. "I really want a pirate hat."

Longtime pal and part-time pirate Johnny Depp could likely fulfill that request for Manson, who was walking the red carpet at the premiere of Depp's "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest." As the aspiring filmmaker later revealed, however, he wanted more from Depp than just a black felt chapeau.

"In less than two weeks, I'm going to France to start production on my film, 'Phantasmagoria,' " Manson said from behind his enormous shades. "And maybe I'll convince Johnny to be in it — I'll extort him to be in it."

Adding, "I don't pressure him," Manson was as sincere about pitching his dream project to Depp as he was while discussing their lengthy friendship. "[British fashion designer] John Galliano said I was one of the true great pirates, and I told Johnny that," Manson laughed. "So it's like me, Johnny and Cap'n Crunch. I have hung out with Jack Sparrow, because Johnny is Jack Sparrow. We drink absinthe; that's what we do."

So over a few glasses of heaven-knows-what, Manson planned to talk Depp into joining several other recently cast stars. "I'm directing and playing ['Alice in Wonderland' author] Lewis Carroll, with Tilda Swinton and hopefully Evan Rachel Wood. Lily Cole, the model, is playing Alice."

Manson has appeared in small roles previously in films like "Lost Highway" and "Party Monster," but this film — its full title is "Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll" — would mark his biggest role yet and his first attempt at a Rob Zombie-like career as a film director. "It's about the period in his life where there was a real split," Manson said of the script, which he wrote alongside producer Geoffrey Cox. "It's a very Jekyll-and-Hyde sort of story. It's based on his diaries, and it's all very factual."

When asked about his directorial style, Manson cited the atmospheric directors behind the unsettling classics "Rosemary's Baby" and "The Seventh Seal." "I'm a big fan of [Roman] Polanski and of Ingmar Bergman, and I wouldn't say it will be like a modern horror film," the rocker insisted. "It wouldn't be like what people are used to seeing today. But I think by being traditional, sometimes like a Hitchcock, it's almost modern, because people are so used to seeing special effects."

Such a statement may make Manson seem less like the weird dude he so eagerly aspires to be. What he had to say next, however, seems certain to get some Hollywood suits scratching their heads. "I have a magician that I've hired to do my special effects," Manson grinned. "I don't want any CGI. I want only in-camera, so I have a magician who's my special-effects man."

Manson insisted: "I just want to be unconventional by being traditional."

[j_absinthe]

*insert obligitory remark that Manson needs to stay in music and that Dita's the debil*

[BROT]

It doesn't get quite clear, whether he really wants Johnny to be in it or is just joking, but I'm looking forward to this film anyway.

[BarryC]

Let's play a game. Who uses FileLodge to host their signature?

http://n.domaindlx.com/BarryC/whosesigdontwork.PNG

[Burlesk]

^
Hahaha. I saw that yesterday too.

[profane]

Very cool. Thanks for the info.

[Charles Monroe]

Would be cool. Hope it's not going to be too mainstream

[Panzer]

"In less than two weeks, I'm going to France to start production on my film, 'Phantasmagoria,' "

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Anyway, i hope they movie will be good, atleast it seems that way.

[me_andre]

Originally posted by Panzer
"In less than two weeks, I'm going to France to start production on my film, 'Phantasmagoria,' "


I would think that getting actors ready first, before starting the filming, would be a good thing. :-P

It would be a bit too mainstream to have Angelina Jolie, Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson in the same movie. But as long as it dosn't affect Mansons art, I would be perfectly fine with it.

[TERROJA]

Thank god for a little fucking news. I'm glad the man is doing something.

[me_andre]

Originally quoted by Marilyn Manson

"In less than two weeks, I'm going to France to start production on my film, 'Phantasmagoria' "

This was said almost a week ago, so the production may as well start tomorrow

[j_absinthe]

Originally posted by BarryC
Let's play a game. Who uses FileLodge to host their signature?
Lawl..*weeps*

I need a different server.

[Pigist Christ]

Awesome, I'm happy for the *some* news finally. I'm looking foward to this film.

[Mechantichrist]

Finally some great news, I can't wait until this is done. Anyone have any idea if this is supposed to go to theatres, or straight to video or what..?

[BarryC]

Originally posted by m_absinthe
Lawl..*weeps*

I need a different server.

I use domaindlx for all me images needs. :) Well actually for hosting any file o_O.

[Hellonheels]

Originally posted by TERROJA
Thank god for a little fucking news. I'm glad the man is doing something. Lol - I hate when you beat me to posting.

I'm glad that there's finally a news thread that isn't about how Manson looked at some party or another. And extra points for having Johnny Depp news mixed in.
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[DopeBox666]

Originally posted by TERROJA
Thank god for a little fucking news. I'm glad the man is doing something.

[incostantemoto]

I swear to god the man has ADHD. He just needs to fucking finish something instead of bouncing all over the place without producing any tangible results.

But I agree.. thank god for some fucking news, finally.

[_oswald]

Originally posted by incostantemoto
I swear to god the man has ADHD. He just needs to fucking finish something instead of bouncing all over the place without producing any tangible results.

But I agree.. thank god for some fucking news, finally.
Maybe he's secretly working on all this crap so one day it's like a media orgasm.

Picture it, the Holy Wood novel, the new album, Phantasmagoria...

Ah shit, dreaming again. We'll be fortunate if we get one of the three. Ever.

[GeminiBoy]

shit, he's just NOW getting it started? didnt dita say that the filming should be wrapping up in april, a few months back?

[acoran1551]

Originally posted by GeminiBoy
shit, he's just NOW getting it started? didnt dita say that the filming should be wrapping up in april, a few months back?

Yes, she said that. Oh man! Is he gonna start to film NOW?

: (!

[ditame]

Just cos he said "production" doesn't mean a thing. We know he has been working on the film as stills exist - a couple anyway, but they do.

And it must be remembered there are three stages of production: pre, pro (short for good old fashioned production) and post.

We don;t know how far he has gotten with all this. Remember he does like to say alot. I just say be alittle more patient. I mean if he doesn't deliver chances are fans will walk away in droves, but if he does - tell me has it REALLY affected your world?

[[psycho]logical]

Originally posted by ditame
Just cos he said "production" doesn't mean a thing. We know he has been working on the film as stills exist - a couple anyway, but they do.

And it must be remembered there are three stages of production: pre, pro (short for good old fashioned production) and post.

We don;t know how far he has gotten with all this. Remember he does like to say alot. I just say be alittle more patient. I mean if he doesn't deliver chances are fans will walk away in droves, but if he does - tell me has it REALLY affected your world?

The stills were taken from the "preview" trailer he exhibited at the Berlin Film Festival. It was only created to show what it is he's intending on doing. I think he's stated that probably none of that footage will appear in the final product. It wouldn't surprise me at all if none of the actual film has been shot yet.

[neurotic]

Originally posted by TERROJA
Thank god for a little fucking news. I'm glad the man is doing something.

[bjornwad]

Originally posted by m_absinthe
*insert obligitory remark that Manson needs to stay in music and that Dita's the debil* Debile

adj : lacking physical strength or vitality; "a feeble old woman"; "her body looked sapless" [syn: decrepit, feeble, infirm, sapless, weak, weakly]

[MeganLaVey]

Originally posted by incostantemoto
I swear to god the man has ADHD.

[neo101]

PRE-production.

you have to be kidding me.

Oh well, looks like a looooooooooong ass wait for anything at all now.

When the fuck is production/shooting gonna even start?

Looks like late this year.

Maybe the new album for 2008? I doubt he'll release it now at all.

[Norsefire]

right i was wondering, manson didnt want his music turned into a product so he creates a film, but he went and got some funding when he went to the berlin film festival so wouldnt they want something back like giving him money was investing it. Which would mean making it a product.

im sure someone on here knows more about all this than i do so do reply.

[Stephen Bitch]

There is no way that anything Manson does will ever NOT be a product, really. That's the beauty of it.

If he does manage to get Depp in Phantasmagoria, it will be a hell of a lot more succesful. I hope for his sake that he does.

[mobile-513]

Originally posted by .new.model.
"[British fashion designer] John Galliano said I was one of the true great pirates, and I told Johnny that," Manson laughed. "So it's like me, Johnny and Cap'n Crunch".

I love Manson's sense of humor. He's so quotable.



Originally posted by .new.model.
When asked about his directorial style, Manson cited the atmospheric directors behind the unsettling classics "Rosemary's Baby" and "The Seventh Seal."...

..."I have a magician that I've hired to do my special effects," Manson grinned. "I don't want any CGI. I want only in-camera, so I have a magician who's my special-effects man."...

Dude, fuck the new album. At this rate, this movie sounds like it's gonna' be better than any album he's done. I've always liked his image/videos more than his music anyway. He's using a magician? Freaking awesome... interesting note, the first science fiction film, and some of the earliest examples of special fx, were the result of a magician from France wanting to work in a new medium, circa 1902. The movie was called <I> Voyage To The Moon </I>, which may be better known to non-film geeks as the basis for the Smashing Pumkins video "Tonight, Tonight".

[rock35]

do you know where in france will this film be shoot?

[dais]

The film Judex used a magician instead of special effects. Very fucken cool..

I hope we do get that media orgasm.

anything..

[Welovehate]

Interesting the connetion between Manson,the pirates,and the Skull and bones order...um...

[j_absinthe]

Originally posted by bjornwad
Debile

adj : lacking physical strength or vitality; "a feeble old woman"; "her body looked sapless" [syn: decrepit, feeble, infirm, sapless, weak, weakly] go watch "Waterboy" again, kiddo.

[DrugsandHugs]

It would be way fucking cool if Depp was in it. I wonder if this movie will go to theaters or just straight to video. If Depp is in it, I would think it would probably be bigger. I am really happy we finally have useful news..

[Oamlhtw]

I absolutely love his throw-back to old Hollywood special effects. I can't wait.

[devils_daughter]

I think Johnny Depp should do it

[Super Ego Bitch]

Personally, I don't care who's going to be in the movie.
Or if it could possibly be shit.
I'm still waiting until it comes out.

I'm going to buy hundreds of copies of the video and several tonnes of merchandise.
Fuck the rest of you.
I'm going to whore the hell out of this movie.
=B