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Oamlhtw
05-13-2005, 11:34 PM
I was told that there was some sort of fued goin on between these two beloved characters. Can anyone give me the scoop?

SINistar
05-14-2005, 12:04 AM
well when manson became famous he started talking shit.

xXxTravisxXx
05-14-2005, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by SINistar
well when manson became famous he started talking shit.
They both started to talk shit. Trent was upset Manson blew up so fast and was worried about Marilyn Manson being bigger than NIN.

Travis

FIGHTMF
05-14-2005, 04:01 AM
Theyre both to blame really. Manson probably isn't an easy person to get along to and Trent can;t seem to resist immature comments on his access page. Well couldnt about a year back.

ElgantlyGrotesk
05-14-2005, 06:57 AM
this is really old news.

Charles Monroe
05-14-2005, 07:36 AM
It's not news, just a question..

Damian
05-14-2005, 10:19 AM
Manson said alot of things about Trent, and things they did, that in all honesty he shouldn't have done. They were friends, and I guess Trent felt like he betrayed that trust. They stopped talking after ACSS and then met up again during The Fragile tour. But I think they were just two different people. Manson embraced the whole rock-star thing, and I think Trent kinda hated that. Manson had also made comments about him being responsible for nothing records major income (laughs). They just cut off all ties when Manson became a "artist" rather than musician.

tangyzizzle
05-14-2005, 11:39 AM
Yeah, they are two different people: Trent has grown up, Manson has not.

Polo
05-14-2005, 06:26 PM
i think trent has dried out (alcohol wise) and that can seem like growing up but he's still able to do a bit of sniping himself. i'm sure they'll get over themselves one day and be friends again.

GunsOfBrixton
05-14-2005, 10:17 PM
They both suck and should kill themselves.

Huckle
05-15-2005, 01:01 PM
I think they're gay and secretly in love with each other.

ComaBlack
05-15-2005, 02:24 PM
I would call it - mutual misunderstanding.

xXxTravisxXx
05-15-2005, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by tangyzizzle
Yeah, they are two different people: Trent has grown up, Manson has not.
Man I laughed when I read that one.

Travis

rev_skarekroe
05-16-2005, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Oamlhtw
I was told that there was some sort of fued goin on between these two beloved characters. Can anyone give me the scoop?

"beloved characters" made me laugh out loud.

Le Absintheur
05-16-2005, 04:08 PM
Who cares? I'm not married to them, I'm just a fan of their music. So they can kick each other's teeth as far as I'm concerned as long as they keep releasing great music.

sinister ninja
05-16-2005, 08:27 PM
It would be extremely hard to accept that a band you yourself made suddenly became popular, more demanded and better to the crowd than you were, you would be mad too. That is probably how Trent feels/felt.

jester
05-18-2005, 09:37 PM
its cuz trent looked at dita tits the wrong way

Oamlhtw
05-18-2005, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by jester
its cuz trent looked at dita tits the wrong way

Oh Jester, you trouble-maker! Your comedy will follow us through the ages.

Tim Skold
05-20-2005, 07:10 PM
ehh..

I just recently read LHROOH and the last Manson said of Trent was they met up and said forget about the past..then next thing i know trent is talking about poopshoot.com and dissing on PJ. I don't understand..
but hey
they do what they do

Montague
05-22-2005, 12:10 AM
hooray for rock star egos! someone call Billy Corgan and Courtney Love, we'll get a party going here.

TERROJA
05-22-2005, 01:31 AM
Trent left New Orleans, gave up drugs and started bike-riding and hiking as a hobby.

Manson moved into a bigger house, got engaged to a fetish model, started drinking absinthe on a regular basis and snorts cocaine like it was still 1985.

Is it really that hard to see why they aren't friends any more?

The_White_Beast
05-24-2005, 04:51 PM
It's basically two self centered people going head to head and only one of them is willing to admit how self centered he is. The other one tries to hide it with nonrepresentational blurrs on his albums replacing pictures of him.

Originally posted by sinister ninja
It would be extremely hard to accept that a band you yourself made-

Yeah, that's it. Trent Reznor MADE marilyn manson... yup... that's it right there...

Killed yourself lately?

gabrieltoxic
05-26-2005, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Tim Skold
ehh..

I just recently read LHROOH and the last Manson said of Trent was they met up and said forget about the past..then next thing i know trent is talking about poopshoot.com and dissing on PJ. I don't understand..
but hey
they do what they do

Well, considering LHROOH was published in 1998 and Reznor dissed PJ on his website last year, I'd say a few things went on between them during those years.

Who gives a shit? Bowie and Iggy Pop didn't talk to each other for years after they worked together, and now as old men, they still have repect for each other. It's just about being mature.

_oswald
05-26-2005, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by drag84
I would diss Pj too. It is what it is...a pathetic move to capture some new fans.
Stop talking about art manson and be an artist. Dont cover...do something new!
Like get an agent and land a role in the future kick-ass film 'Bloodlines' (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457290/)! It's sure to eclipse 'Titanic' and the entire 'Star Wars' sextology at the box office!

roach
06-02-2005, 10:18 AM
I must be awful bored since i'm still reading this.

ironmessiah
06-03-2005, 08:36 AM
Trent's Personal Jesus comment actually made me laugh... you can see his point...:/

But in TLHROOH, Manson says that he dosent know why Trent isnt returning his calls or some such thing, so it seems that he got pissed of at Manson.

And what the fuck is the deal with Starfuckers Inc.?


ironmessiah

Black Sunday
06-17-2005, 01:21 AM
I read a Rolling Stone article about Manson co-directing Starfuckers, Inc. video and he had a lot of good things to say about the video and his feelings toward the reunion, but it seems now they can't really decide whether or not they like each other. The LHROOH didn't say why the feud started, and all I've heard is rumors (because of course 90% of all media coverage on Manson is BS and unrelaible, overexaggerated by the narrow-minded who want to see his career over.) My guess is Manson hit one of Trent's nerves (because he's so proficient there) and Trent never quite got over it.

MM this MM that
02-18-2006, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by TERROJA
Trent left New Orleans, gave up drugs and started bike-riding and hiking as a hobby.

Manson moved into a bigger house, got engaged to a fetish model, started drinking absinthe on a regular basis and snorts cocaine like it was still 1985.

Is it really that hard to see why they aren't friends any more?

Ah yes, and he got a crew cut too, but still, sober people need excuses for these things, and I, being a fanatic, like to know them as clearly as possible.

Nil Three
02-21-2006, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by TERROJA
Trent left New Orleans, gave up drugs and started bike-riding and hiking as a hobby.

Manson moved into a bigger house, got engaged to a fetish model, started drinking absinthe on a regular basis and snorts cocaine like it was still 1985.

Is it really that hard to see why they aren't friends any more?

All true, but they were feuding long before that.

Hellonheels
02-21-2006, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by MM this MM that
Ah yes, and he got a crew cut too, but still, sober people need excuses for these things, and I, being a fanatic, like to know them as clearly as possible. Good thing you bumped this whole thread just to say that. *thumbs up*
N

FireOrchid
02-21-2006, 01:24 PM
Manson said in an interview that Trent was holding the master recordings for his albums released under Nothing records, and he was told they were supposedly "lost".

Hellonheels
02-21-2006, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by FireOrchid
Manson said in an interview that Trent was holding the master recordings for his albums released under Nothing records, and he was told they were supposedly "lost". First of all, that was OUR interview, and he said nothing of the sort - he implied. Second, we already had a bitchfight thread on that, and I'm pretty sure it ended up in the graveyard. Let's not try to stir up that particular load of horseshit again, shall we?
N

BarryC
02-21-2006, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Hellonheels
First of all, that was OUR interview, and he said nothing of the sort - he implied. Second, we already had a bitchfight thread on that, and I'm pretty sure it ended up in the graveyard. Let's not try to stir up that particular load of horseshit again, shall we?
N

OUR? Does it matter where the interview came from? He wasn't claiming rights to it. Didn't know you owned part of the Heirophant either =O

AbsintheSpade
02-21-2006, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by MM this MM that
Ah yes, and he got a crew cut too, but still, sober people need excuses for these things, and I, being a fanatic, like to know them as clearly as possible.

also he got muscular and hotter......

FireOrchid
02-21-2006, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Hellonheels
First of all, that was OUR interview, and he said nothing of the sort - he implied. Second, we already had a bitchfight thread on that, and I'm pretty sure it ended up in the graveyard. Let's not try to stir up that particular load of horseshit again, shall we?
N

I really didnt imply where the interview came from, and thanks for running me into the ground. I'm new here, in case you didnt notice, and all though I have read lots of the threads that are here, I have not read them all. So pardon me for bothering you. and by the way, RESPECT YOUR ELDERS!

Hellonheels
02-21-2006, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by BarryC
OUR? Does it matter where the interview came from? He wasn't claiming rights to it. Didn't know you owned part of the Heirophant either =O Our as in the Heirophant. I never said that he was claiming the rights to it, I could see he was new, and was asserting that we were familiar with the origins of the quote.Originally posted by FireOrchid
I really didnt imply where the interview came from, and thanks for running me into the ground. I'm new here, in case you didnt notice, and all though I have read lots of the threads that are here, I have not read them all. So pardon me for bothering you. and by the way, RESPECT YOUR ELDERS! I did notice that you were new - and I don't recall being anywhere as hard on you as I could have. I'm admittedly touchy on the subject that you mentioned, which I'm certain is the reason that I came off harsher than I meant to, I apologize. And I'll respect you when you earn it.
N

GunsOfBrixton
02-21-2006, 11:15 PM
Jesus, this isn't fucking Compton.

Homeostasis
02-21-2006, 11:32 PM
Trent is just a hypocritical little shit. He gets off on ranting about people who are more famous than him, and at the same time admiring everything about people who were here before him. Take Bruce Springsteen, for example. Trent has got the utmost respect for the guy, but if Mr Springsteen over there was born 30 years later and had the exact same career tragectory, Trent would start moaning about him so fucking fast. He seems to forget that Mr Springsteen was a fucking little cunt who left Patti Smith for dirt, just because the opportunity to work with Billy Joel came along. The similarities between Mr Springsteen and Mr Manson's (business-end-of-things) career is quite striking, actually. The whole moving from one record label to another. Mr Reznor praises Mr Springsteen for the exact same things that he's insulting Mr Manson for doing. Hypocrite.

And, of course, Trent likes to fill his house with Platinum discs while pretending to be an underground artisté.

There is very little difference between the careers of Mr Manson and Mr Reznor. The only difference is that Manson is honest about his successes, something that Mr Reznor seems to take offense to.

Pretty ironic that he called Mr Manson a "shallow little bitch".

Sincerely yours,
Mr Homeostasis.

GunsOfBrixton
02-22-2006, 01:18 AM
They're both on their last gasps of vitality and used to be romantically involved, is there any more substance to the matter? Manson will divorce Dita, him and Trent will move to Boston, and they'll get married.

kundun5
02-22-2006, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by GunsOfBrixton
Jesus, this isn't fucking Compton. LOL!

FireOrchid
02-22-2006, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Hellonheels
Our as in the Heirophant. I never said that he was claiming the rights to it, I could see he was new, and was asserting that we were familiar with the origins of the quote. I did notice that you were new - and I don't recall being anywhere as hard on you as I could have. I'm admittedly touchy on the subject that you mentioned, which I'm certain is the reason that I came off harsher than I meant to, I apologize. And I'll respect you when you earn it.
N

Apology accepted, and I am a she not a he.

Hellonheels
02-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by kundun5
LOL! YOU! You're not allowed in here!

kundun5
02-22-2006, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Hellonheels
YOU! You're not allowed in here! Lol, i couldn't help myself:(

*flogs self indefinitely*

Hellonheels
02-22-2006, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by kundun5
*flogs self indefinitely* That's better. :)

DrugsandHugs
02-23-2006, 08:36 PM
Uhm ok all this is basically the same thing over and over again, They both used to be friends and they changed, and now they moved on, maybe one day they will both stop being stupid and talk or something.

Nil Three
02-23-2006, 08:39 PM
Yeah, after trying to sort this whole feud thing, i have come to a conclusion:

I REALLY, REALLY DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

Trent and Manson both make excellent music, and what they do in their spare time is there problem. So why the fuck should I waste my time worrying about why they like each other or not?

GeminiBoy
02-23-2006, 11:15 PM
and manson is a shallow little bitch...but its a compliment. trents just jealous of manson, thats how its always been. case closed. mansons better than trent anyday

itsupthere
02-24-2006, 12:36 AM
I was listening to Green Day while reading this thread, bitches.

Hellonheels
02-24-2006, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Nil Three
So why the fuck should I waste my time worrying about why they like each other or not? You shouldn't. End of thread.