'Deepest' Manson song.

[KrazzyJoe]

I will be doing an essay in my English class soon. The assignment is to chose any song and interpret it as a poem. I am very excited about this. I do not know if I could only do one song, so I would like to know three things in your opinions.

1)Deepest Manson song
2)Songs off of ACSS, MA, and HW that best describe the Tryptich.

I wish to do the Tryptich but am not sure if I can with one song, so three may be acceptable.

[Tourniquet]

The Speed Of Pain and In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death,
Pretty deep going songs, or how ever you say it

[Lecter [-!-]]

i think that there are many songs that hace lots of interpretation material in them, u'l have to decide. but in my opinion those are great:

Man that you fear
Lamb of god
Target Audience (Narcissus Narcosis) , just the title gives you allot to say...

or you could use songs that are based on stories,historical events or something like that....

good luck

[j_absinthe]

I did something similar. I used Smashing pumpkins 'Disarm' and put it to Hamlet.

As for your situation, just chose any song that you think can be easily interpreted. Do you have to interpret it and have it relate a specific subject or what?

[ScaR.Mutt]

I recommend either Reflecting God or Tourniquet.

Both delve deeply into the meaning of identity.

Also, I think the last 4 songs of Holywood sort of sum up the Tryptich.

[dishonest_angel]

i did that assignment... i used silverchair's "ana's song..." but as for manson songs that you could delve into.... the beautiful people, tourniquet, the reflecting god, great big white world, mechanical animals, disassoicative, speed of pain, fundamentally loathesome, target audience, cruci-fiction in space, and burning flag... these are some of my personal favorites for analysis but of course most of manson's songs have meanings to unfold... good luck with the assignment... by the way joe are you from portland, and if so what school?

[KrazzyJoe]

The Beautifull people? Yeah, thats deep. The rest are good choices though.

[Christ 2.0]

I always found Man that you Fear and Coma Black to be his deepest songs...and i think that the Coma's and the last quarter of Holywood sum up the Tryptich well

[dishonest_angel]

hey hey hey now... no hatred upon the beautiful people... besides a girl in my class did that song for this assignment and it was really good...

[KrazzyJoe]

Well, tis a good somg, not much interpreting to be done though.

[dishonest_angel]

you gotta remember that some of the people you'll be presenting to don't listen to manson, nor would they be able to see what's plainly there to you and I... now you never answered my question... are you from portland and if so what high school do you go to?

[KrazzyJoe]

Good point. No, I do not live in Portland, I go to Tillamook High School(go mooks!). Joking, of course, it's a shitty school for a shitty town.

[dishonest_angel]

ahh ok... i asked because i remember you sayig you were gonna go to the portland show... and also because i had a similar assignment...

[PoisonIvy1313]

i recomend:
shadow of the valley of death,
fundamentally loathesome,
and man tat you fear...

[Christ 2.0]

Originally posted by PoisonIvy1313
i recomend:
shadow of the valley of death,
fundamentally loathesome,
and man tat you fear...

And I "recomend" -

www.learntospell.com

knock yourself out.

BTW - Recently, i've found GAOG (the song) to be kinda deep. dunno why really.

[th0th]

Angel with the Scabbed Wings,Mechanical Animals,Coma Black,Spade;in my opinion..

[SuiCiDeaNGeL]

i reckon:
* coma white
* coma black
* man that you fear
* the reflecting god
* Target audience
* King Kill 33o

[Zapruder313]

The deepest manson song is definatly Sweet Tooth.

[SupermanisDead]

The deepest song in my opinion, is without a doubt Count to Six and Die.

[KrazzyJoe]

I love Count To Six and Die, very good.

[HauntedxMirror]

I would say "lamb of god"

[uN0rTh0d0X]

King Kill 33 would get a stir..

the coma's..yes.

[The King]

if it's for the tryptch i say

Man That You Fear
Mechanical Animals
Coma Black

or

Antichrist Superstar
Mechanical Animals
In the Shadow of the Valley of Death


In My opinion the deepest song is Speed of Pain

[Neopowell]

GOAG is mainly imagery rather than meaning IMHO but its a kickass song so who cares? :)

I'd go for the whole ACSS story but thats just me :)

[MariMayans]

My choice: Kinderfeld
A Minute Of Decay
Spade
Coma White and Coma Black (this
two must be together)

[Legato]

id go with coma black, cryptorkid, angel with the scabbed wings, godeatgod, or count to 6 and die

[dishonest_angel]

its cryptorCHID...

[Zapruder313]

Wrapped in plastic

[Legato]

maybe nobodies can the job done as well

[Burlesk]

mechanical animals its a good one too..
I LOVE THE CHROUS.. its something about it.. i think its the way he sings it...

[ihtia0]

Wow, nobody has replied in this thread for nearly two years... I better ruin that.

[TERROJA]

Nothing he's done has had that soul-depth of someone like Johnny Cash, Tom Waits or Leonard Cohen but he has a stronger intellect than any of those guys and a more abstract worldview so when he does become the sage it will be really impressive.

[Nosferatu]

dEaD gOd! lol

no seriously...
umm...
coma white

[Deathangel]

I dont know...but:
Lamb of God with its attack on the media for glorifying death, Coma White because it gets to me everytime i listen to it, Coma Black, Kinderfeld since that seems to be the only song where Manson decides to sing about his grampa, and Man that You Fear because its just deep.


=)

[driedupandtied]

the songs that are supposed to unite the tryptich irresonsible hate anthem, i want to dissapear, and born again, if im not mistaken

[Black Sunday]

A relatively simple but sufficient one would be The Beautiful People. Basic Manson profile, I could help you with that one if you want.

[angelsephiroth]

Liek Prelude is soo deep cuz Mansun and Wonka are like 1! Deep schtuffffffffffz! 1337 even!

[Black Sunday]

Manson and Willy Wonka go way back, he talks a lot about that in The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell. He's gonna be pissed about Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory because ecause Johnny Depp beat him to the role (which is too bad, really, I would have LOVED to see MM play that.)

[KutestKittyKat]

COMA BLACK!!!!!!!!! (that one really gets me)
THE LAST DAY ON EARTH
COMA WHITE
KINDERFELD

[AnjoKabalistico]

Originally posted by Black Sunday
Manson and Willy Wonka go way back, he talks a lot about that in The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell. He's gonna be pissed about Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory because ecause Johnny Depp beat him to the role (which is too bad, really, I would have LOVED to see MM play that.)

Actually, Johnny Depp said that he'd let Manson play the role if he wanted it, but Manson refused it.

[evilsongwriter]

Hmmm. I've always loved the Minute Of Decay. I feel connected to it in some criss-cross-type way that only it can provide. So the deepest song is-and always will be- Minute Of Decay! YAY!!!

[Grotesque-DaDa]

you can't really do a thread like this....it's like asking with is your deepest moment....all mansons songs are deppest, but in diffrent ways in diffrent situations.

[Grotesque-DaDa]

But in my opinion is (s)AINT the most personal song he's done so far....

[Velvet Vamp]

Man that You Fear - the chorus alone wins it the position, but there's something to Minute of Decay. And Speed of Pain is deep but I'm not sure how much there's there to analyse... but it's all so personal isn't it? Anything can contain a deep significance if you look hard enough.
~VV

[Cyclops_Girl]

Hmm. Maybe "Man That You Fear" (this song has always been a personal one for me) "Coma White" and "Target Audience". Perhaps "Kinderfeld".

[ACSuperstar]

Originally posted by TERROJA
Nothing he's done has had that soul-depth of someone like Johnny Cash, Tom Waits or Leonard Cohen but he has a stronger intellect than any of those guys and a more abstract worldview so when he does become the sage it will be really impressive.

Tom Waits has one good song- GOIN OUT WEST

The rest are faggy slow-ass songs

[Charles Monroe]

Minute of Decay

[ADingoAteMyBaby]

I had do an assignment similar to this. I had to pick a cd that told a story, and I picked Mechanical Animals. I figured it would be the easiest for non-fans to relate to since it's a little more pop-ish. It was one of my favorite projects.

ACSS- I would say either Man That You Fear or Minute of Decay.
MA- Great Big White World
HW- Target Audience or King Kill

A good variety of songs will be the best if you are having a bunch of non-fans as your critics. Plus www.songmeanings.net is a good site to get some opinions on the meanings of the songs.

Example by "Sar": The song Great Big White World describes Manson as a spaceman, looking down on Earth, and seeing a revolting and depressing sight which is our destroyed world. Everyone is mechanical, self-destructive and hollow. And instead of doing something about it, they wait for God to do something about it. Instead of making the world a better place, they pray just like insects to God to make it better, and all the while the world is just dying. By saying 'I'm not attached to your world' Manson is also saying he feels alienated from everyone and everything aorund him, and that he doesn't want to take part in the murder of this planet any longer. Moving further along, by saying 'It's a great big white world, we are drained of our colors' he's calling the world fake, lifeless, ugly and empty.



Plus angelynx's site has always had nice Manson interpretations, especially concerning the tryptich.

[OBSCENE]

Mechanical Animals, it's one of his best songs.. very deep and nice

[herdoktor15]

Its most deffinately not his deepest and is also a cover, but I think doing a report on personal jesus would be most interesting to your teacher and/or pears. In a political sense i mean.

[kundun5]

Coma Black, Spade, Kinderfeld.

[Omega_3x5]

Man that you fear. It might be hard tho=)

[mandyko13]

ACSuperstar, what a sig!

[Omega_3x5]

Originally posted by mandyko13
ACSuperstar, what a sig!

Zim Zum is missing :/

[Torquemada]

In my opinion, it's no contest that Holy Wood has his deepest songs as far as meaningful lyrics go. It's just a question of which song on that album has the most depth. In my opinion, it's either "The Nobodies", "The Love Song", or "Target Audeince". "In The Shadow of the Valley of Death" is very deep in its own, more personal way as well.

[DopeSvperSTAR15]

we had to do that assighment at school, i did coma white because its my favorite song, people who know me cant believe i listen to marilyn manson, im probably the last person theyd expect, but i think after my presentation they understood why i do listen to him, a little bit better.

[comawhite091]

Coma White and Tourniquet are the deepest....

[comawhite091]

Originally posted by DopeSvperSTAR15
we had to do that assighment at school, i did coma white because its my favorite song, people who know me cant believe i listen to marilyn manson, im probably the last person theyd expect, but i think after my presentation they understood why i do listen to him, a little bit better.

Same here. Coma White is my favorite song and people who know me can't believe I listen to Marilyn Manson. I did an assignment at school last year and it shocked my teacher that I even listened to metal.

[profane]

Originally posted by kundun5
Spade

I can't express how much we are in need of more Manson songs such as this. Absolutely brilliant.

[GDP]

King Kill 33° is very deep. The massive number of esoteric allusions alone are enough to get my vote.

[Sherry]

I have two:
Coma White & Tourniquet for very sentimental reasons.
:)
I'm seeing a popular trend these choices.

[lunchbox1113]

my monkey doesn't count...........: (

[j_absinthe]

Originally posted by profane
I can't express how much we are in need of more Manson songs such as this. Absolutely brilliant. it makes me wanna do a slow strip tease whenever i hear Spade. It's surely one of his sexiest.

[antichrists_lvr]

come on, dissasociative is probably the slowest/saddest/ most meaningful song ever. i was reading an interview, and he told the guy that he wrote that song right after he came off special K for the first time. about how he felt disconnected with the world. so yeah that song always meant something to me

[Cherrylips]

The Lala Song.

[filicide]

For me, the "deepest" Manson song is Kinderfeld. Bar none.

[Vamediah]

i really like the connection between the songs 'coma white' and 'coma black' its really cool, and i think they are very deep songs, look into it :)

i think its about the transaction between his charakter with the tao-corss and the charakter 'Omega'... is that right?

[Insect]

Holy Wood's "Lamb of God" seems the most meaningful to me. There's something about his slow, grating wail of
"Nothing's gonna change the world"
That really strikes an emotional chord. I think the sentiment is extremely applicable to our modern world.

[RoTTenThing]

I love Disassociative. In my opinion, it is one of the deepest.

[spot]

to me it would have to be coma white and the man that you fear. the man that you fear i found disturbing for some reason, the video was beyond sad. great but sad. coma white fits into a certain point in my life and was easy to connect to for me

[antichrists_lvr]

yeah the first time i saw man that you fear video, i cried...but that was before i even knew anything about marilyn manson, and thats basically how i got into it. my friend mesa had the lest we forget with bonus DVD and she told me to watch the videos, so i just decided to drink a little bacardie and watch it...so i did and i was definately never the same.

going along with school projects, i did my 8th grade "exit project" on marilyn manson, and i showed the clip of his interview in bowling for columbine, and i got 90 out of 100 for it...my teacher hated me listening to mm anyways...but i think she began to understand at the end. how i spoke with such reverance, a light shining upon my face that she had never seen. the rest of the class noticed as well, and i never got in fights with anyone in that class over marilyn manson again...

[antichrists_lvr]

such a happy ending...i wish my life as like that...




oh well

[rolling_suicide]

Coma White, Coma Black, Speed of Pain or Man that you fear, easy

[Godthing544]

Dope hat, lamb of god, and Disassociative.

[antichrists_lvr]

i <3 lamb of god

[redtastesweet]

i vote for Speed of Pain, or Wrapped in Plastic. Both songs seem to bring about the same void of emotionlessness, that is required by any truly respectable satanist/godlessness

[Crowley]

Originally posted by SupermanisDead
The deepest song in my opinion, is without a doubt Count to Six and Die.

Well said... or Lamb of God.

[JudasChrist]

Man that you fear, probably.

New Model No. 15's good, though. It really portrays the doped-up, oversexed, hollow rock star perfectly.

[the_spooky_kid]

I did that same assignment. Being a stupid freshman, I picked a song with no lyrics. Somehow i passed...anyway, i'd go with cake and sodomy. Just look at the part in Long Hard Road Out Of Hell where he talks about it, there's actually more to it than the blatant obscenity. And that way, even if you write a shitty essay and fail the assignment, you'll at least get to piss off your classmates/teacher...i'm sure they'll enjoy that. Anyhow, i'd say that just about anything from MA would be good. The other two Tryptic ones are chuck full of good ones, two, and, honestly, I think Portrait has some very deep songs, although everyone will argue with this. Dogma, Sweet Tooth, Wrapped in Plastic...I read a very good one on Get Your Gunn. Hope that was helpful.

[the_spooky_kid]

Originally posted by redtastesweet
i vote for Speed of Pain, or Wrapped in Plastic. Both songs seem to bring about the same void of emotionlessness, that is required by any truly respectable satanist/godlessness
Hey now, I'm a satanist and I have perfectly good emotions! I would take offense to that if I cared more and wasn't so damn tired. Good night!