Numbers, Again

[Calculations]

THis time im real.

So my friend Logan White and I were messing around in study hall with the Tryptich numbers and here are our notes.
? means the provided numbers have no found meaning.
A-1
B-2
C-3
D-4
E-5
F-6
G-7
H-8
I-9
J-10
K-11
L-12
M-13
N-14
O-15
P-16
Q-17
R-18
S-19
T-20
U-21
V-22
W-23
X-24
Y-25
Z-26

A N T I C H R I S T
1 14 20 9 3 8 18 9 19 20=121?

S U P E R S T A R
19 21 16 5 18 19 20 1 18=137?

M A R I L Y N
13 1 18 9 12 25 14 = 92?

M A N S O N
13 1 14 19 15 14 = 76?

but wait

MECHANICAL's number/letter code adds up to 69
ANIMALS's number/letter code adds up to 69 as well

69 was the numbers emblazoned on manson chest during holy wood.

AS has 16 songs
MA has 14 songs
HW has 21 songs
adding up to 51, or 15 backwards.

On the back of Holywood, his songs are split up into multiple parts

A = Shadow
D = Androgyne
A = Red Earth
M = Fallen

SAREF? hmm. sounds god-ly

Minute of decay is 2:22 long. in the AS booklet, there is a portion from the bible above the title track, the page of that is page 222. On the reverse side there are a random B and V next to each other along the bottom.

B=2
V=22
222? three times? do the math. 666.

You all probably know that the largest roman numerals are as follows

9 6 3 7, and separately 1 5 6 5 1

the first is easy, 9x6x3x7 = 1134 or HELL on a calculator.
the second is easier, 1+5 6 5+1 = 666

Still hungry?

Multiples of three come up COUNTLESS times in the AS booklet, and look at your watch...3? that there is at the 15 second line...

Now back to the Mechanical Animals Booklet.

In a good handful of the pages, there are exactly 15 images.

lets look closer.

PAGE 1 and 2 or the GBWW lyrics, i dont know, its all upside down.

there are 11 pills, one image above them, one Recycled Polystyrene image and 325mg, and a image to the left of that. thats fifteen
next page.

there are 12 small images ina line, and three large ones
there is a 51 featured, a backwards 15

next page there is a 3 x 5, or fifteen,three vertical bars and five dots, an images of the suicide king card, so there is 11, then on the next page there is a /bk(?) an eye a color mixture logo, and two lines from coma white. fifteen again.

next page, manson reclining promts us to take a brief rest. ahh. we must press on.

the are
three Keys (Ctrl, esc, del)
three things with a face...
A pill logo. with three pills
four steps to saving a suffocating human
a picture of manson
a Picuture of ginger, looking handsome.
fifteen.

next page

A MA logo collage,
ten lil images
a marker stopped between 10 and 20, IE 15
two images of MW Gacy, looking like Spider One
15. easy

the next page features a 15 built in, but there arent 15 images.

Right when you open up HW's booklet the first two images you see are Death and Magician, or 13 and 1, or M and A

I could name the Kennedy references, but my keyboard would combust.

I counted all the sylables for every song, and counted all the letters to no avail.

In AS the U of superstar is a V and the I and E in heirophant were mixed
in MA the I and S were 1 and 5
im HW, the L was missing from HOLLY WOOD

so we have U, I, E, I, S, L.

I lost my last few pages of note, so some critical components are missing. but thanks for your time. I may update later with numerical codes aplenty.

[Calculations]

Originally posted by The Great Pujo
You Have Too Much Time On Your Hands.

fuck. i try to impress people with the only thing i got (brains), and look, i get out posted by some chick that found a finger in her chili.

[Komaschwarz]

Numerology based games are entertaining. but this is not headed anywhere.

[Dr_noswad]

man that was impressive, and that wasnt sarcasm. Did you find any links with SLC i always saw that album as a key for things to come...

[angelsephiroth]

Am I missing something because my version of Holy Wood has 19 tracks :-/

[Lecter [-!-]]

Originally posted by angelsephiroth
Am I missing something because my version of Holy Wood has 19 tracks :-/

Moi deux.

:p

[Dr_noswad]

thats caus you have teh american version. Us Europians have teh cool bonus track, Nobodies acoustic...

[TheRapeFish]

Come on, that's more absurd than most of the theories Hazekiah spews forth. So you like numerology? Here's a website for you:

http://www.scatteredsheep.com/arnold_schwarzenegger.htm

It definitively proves that Arnold Schwartzenegger is the Antichrist using a system of numbers similar to the one you base your absurd theories off of. I mean, honestly, Hermes Trimestigus, there are better and more productive stuff to do with your time. You're not a Kabbalist Jew, and you're not going to find God through numbers. The interesting thing about math is that if you can through enough of it find patterns and coincidences in anything. With a little algebraic manipulation, anything is possible, especially when you start trying to find certain numbers, like 3, 7, 15 or 666.

Take a random string of numbers in your head, and you can find patterns in them. WHen I was real young, I used to do things like this in my head all the time. My address used to be 17583. That's three eights (7+1, 5+3, 8), and my best friend's address used to be 86424. Guess what? Another three eights (8, 2+6, 4+4). What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. It's coincidental.

[TheRapeFish]

Also, the "69" on Manson's chest that you refer to is not a number. It's the astological symbol for cancer.

[Dr_noswad]

or is it a glitch in the matrix, hey hey!

[controlledchaos]

Originally posted by TheRapeFish
Also, the "69" on Manson's chest that you refer to is not a number. It's the astological symbol for cancer.

I always thought that as well.

[Lecter [-!-]]

Originally posted by controlledchaos
I always thought that as well.

Especialy since he also has the Libra sign on him as well as one more sign i forgot.

[controlledchaos]

Originally posted by Lecter [-!-]
Especialy since he also has the Libra sign on him as well as one more sign i forgot.

Well, he uses the symbol for Mercury (obviously). Astrology is a heavy influence in all of Manson's work, but especially so on Holywood.

[KutestKittyKat]

Yeah can use numerology in many things and it would still make sense.

The number 69 is probably related to the last numbers on Manson's birthday, as well as the number 15 which if you split the 1 and the 5 means the first month (January) and the fifth day.

The 69 on Manson's actually is the Cancer symbol. On the side of his left arm is the Libra symbol, which as I've been fooling around is actually Dita's sign. But I don't know where the Cancer symbol fits into the picture. The only thing I can think of is that he is Capricorn, and the Cancer is the complementary symbol of the Zodiac, since one is an Earth symbol and the other is Water. So it could be representing a third unknown person. the only way you could know who it is by the birthdate, which lands from June 21 to July 22. See if you can figure that out.

[sinister ninja]

Whoa....

[ozebane]

It was entertaining granted, but you're all overanalysing way too much.

[Calculations]

of course i am

[Chávz]

Originally posted by KutestKittyKat
So it could be representing a third unknown person.

The third and final beast!


Dun dun duuuuunnnnnn!

[stuffed_jackel]

Originally posted by The Great Pujo
You Have Too Much Time On Your Hands. I agree!

[Dadadada]

That my friend is beautiful. This is why manson is manson, he inspired you to use your brain. I find the conclusions and theorys convincing. I think everything has some sort of meaning behind,

111, the only thing thats stopping us. You figure it out.

[mightymonny]

Originally posted by neurophobic
ronald wilson reagan
6 6 6

=D

hahahahahahahahahahaha my thoughts exactly.

[dave303]

some good analysing

[Deathdust]

Interesting stuff, you remind of a A Beautiful Mind with the amount of analysis though :P It could be overanalysis but hearing how serious Manson takes coincidences like that, I wouldn't be suprised if at least some of it was planted.

[channel]

Originally posted by Dr_noswad
thats caus you have teh american version. Us Europians have teh cool bonus track, Nobodies acoustic...


I live in Denmark and I don't have an acoustic version of the Nobodies

[TheSuicideKing]

So do I, and I don't have it either. That's because the bonus track was only for the UK.

[me_andre]

Originally posted by TheRapeFish
You're not a Kabbalist Jew, and you're not going to find God through numbers.


"God is a number you cannot come to....."

[Empty Eyes]

All that extra math stuff works in some cases and doesn't in others. I know that we could be overlooking a paticulair system for adding those #s, but until someone really comes out with something that just blows everything away I will always be leary of crazy addition. The only number that I've managed to find any info on is 325(check you Mechanical Animals booklet, it's printed largely in one place and featured on a few of the pills, and this may be common knowledge, but that was the date The First Council of Nicaea was held.

"Taken from Wikipedia" The purpose of the council (also called a synod), was to resolve disagreements in the church of Alexandria over the nature of the godhead, and in particular whether the second person of the Trinity was like or unlike the first.

There are also more statements that kind of hint at some of the messages of that album in the full text here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea) .

I know that there are other number connections that isn't what I was trying to establish, just giving the piece of info I found.

[Rabbelrauser]

Originally posted by Lecter [-!-]
Moi deux.

:p
You just said "me two" in French. To say "me too" in French, you say "moi aussi," which is literally "me also."

[Rabbelrauser]

There are exactly 666 pages in my math book if you subtract the lowercase Roman numeral numbered pages and the glossary, appendix, and index pages from the total complete number of pages.

That's weird because to me, math is the devil. I can speak 3 different languages, play 4 different instruments by ear, recite a detailed history of Western Civilization from prehistoric times to 1200 A.D., but I can't do basic math in my head.

[Algebrane]

Ok first of all I didn't read all of the replies as there were many. Somebody tell me if I should really take the time to read EVERY reply. I don't know who I'm dealing with here since I used to follow MM back in 1999 and a hacker broke MM's code. Nowadays Microsoft has all those anti-virus critical updates making it very difficult for the marginal criminal population to break through. Since 1999 this marginal population has probably become even more dangerous and they're probably to be found here. I'm in college, but I hardly consider my feats in Calculus and other simple classes to be worth anything. I could assume that numerology has little to do with higher math. Maybe you can combine numerology and higher math, that would be cool I guess, wouldn't it?

The first time I posted a thread of a nature similar to this one on this forum I was put in the graveyard. When I lashed out because I didn't understand why my first thread went in the graveyard and demanded an explanation from the moderators, someone called RX called me an idiot. There are those like Chemist80 doing the most complicated math on the planet here, so why isn't he consulted?? I need someone to make things clear for me. And if Marilyn Manson really is the antiChrist, then why aren't we seeing the mark of the beast or the rise of the second beast (the antiChrist's false prophet). The shit with the mark of the beast sounds more like something that would have to do with governments controlling the world, not an entertainer.

[chemist80]

Originally posted by Algebrane
There are those like Chemist80 doing the most complicated math on the planet here, so why isn't he consulted??

I don't do the most complicated math on the planet. I would assign that to the string theorists. Besides, numerology has little to do with actual mathematics.

My opinion of this is that a kid is trying to arbitrarily assign meaning where there is none.

and.... I AM NOT A HE!!!1!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Algebrane
I need someone to make things clear for me. And if Marilyn Manson really is the antiChrist, then why aren't we seeing the mark of the beast or the rise of the second beast (the antiChrist's false prophet). The shit with the mark of the beast sounds more like something that would have to do with governments controlling the world, not an entertainer.

Manson is a man, just like you and I. The bible is a book, just like any other book. Neither hold mystical meaning. Take them for what they are, and don't try to elevate them to be more than that.

In other words, this is all a bunch of bullshit. :)

[Algebrane]

Originally posted by chemist80

and.... I AM NOT A HE!!!1!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry about calling you a he then. Your a very smart woman, I wish I could be that smart.

[Mercury SS]

Originally posted by Algebrane
Sorry about calling you a he then. Your a very smart woman, I wish I could be that smart.

Suck up...

Originally posted by Algebrane
Ok first of all I didn't read all of the replies as there were many. Somebody tell me if I should really take the time to read EVERY reply. I don't know who I'm dealing with here since I used to follow MM back in 1999 and a hacker broke MM's code. Nowadays Microsoft has all those anti-virus critical updates making it very difficult for the marginal criminal population to break through. Since 1999 this marginal population has probably become even more dangerous and they're probably to be found here. I'm in college, but I hardly consider my feats in Calculus and other simple classes to be worth anything. I could assume that numerology has little to do with higher math. Maybe you can combine numerology and higher math, that would be cool I guess, wouldn't it?

The first time I posted a thread of a nature similar to this one on this forum I was put in the graveyard. When I lashed out because I didn't understand why my first thread went in the graveyard and demanded an explanation from the moderators, someone called RX called me an idiot. There are those like Chemist80 doing the most complicated math on the planet here, so why isn't he consulted?? I need someone to make things clear for me. And if Marilyn Manson really is the antiChrist, then why aren't we seeing the mark of the beast or the rise of the second beast (the antiChrist's false prophet). The shit with the mark of the beast sounds more like something that would have to do with governments controlling the world, not an entertainer.

You're probably some 12 year old with no self-esteem... Either that or you're the biggest fucking loser I have ever seen.

[Algebrane]

Originally posted by Mercury SS
Suck up...



You're probably some 12 year old with no self-esteem... Either that or you're the biggest fucking loser I have ever seen.

Yeah, thanks...do you even know what the hell your talking about you ugly piece of shit? Form your own Golden Dawn and reinvent the tarot. Actually the former isn't intended as an insult. I'm not a 12 year old but your sort of right about my self esteem. Why such an uncalled for comment though, seriously there's something wrong with you. If I had the opportunity, there's just so many things I would like to do to you, you fool. Chemist80, please help me out. What is this guy talking about?? By being as judgmental and vague as you have been Mercury with your comments, there's a big possibility (and I think it's true) that you just felt like putting somebody down, and your calling me a loser?? I could argue with you on many different things a 12 year old wouldn't even consider, so...wtf?

[chemist80]

Originally posted by Algebrane
Chemist80, please help me out.

Just shrug it off. Does it matter what anyone thinks of you? The point is to be happy with yourself. If you like you, than fuck what anyone else has to say. If you don't like you, then that's something you need to resolve within yourself.

As for being "smart," I think everyone has the capacity to learn what they truly want to know. Wisdom, however, lies in realizing that you don't always have the answers. There's an infinite amount of knowledge in the universe. Far too much for the human brain to accumulate and utilize. That's why we need to work together in the quest for information. In the end, there is no deeper meaning; life is only what you make it.

I think that this numerology stuff is largely bullshit. I can't back you up on any arguments based on numerology or the bible. Understanding complex mathematics will not help you to understand numerology. They are completely unrelated, in my opinion.

[Hellhammer]

Interesting sortof

[JudasChrist]

Serafs are a choir of angels.

[no forgiveness]

Originally posted by channel
I live in Denmark and I don't have an acoustic version of the Nobodies


well Manson is from the US so the US version is the ONE TRUE VERSION!!!!!!!!
ahahha :P

[Ainsley]

Originally posted by JudasChrist
Serafs are a choir of angels.

Word.

[no forgiveness]

Originally posted by JudasChrist
Serafs are a choir of angels.

i think your wrong
Seraph (or plural Seraphim) is one of a class of celestial beings mentioned once in the Old Testament (Tanakh), in Isaiah.

check more out at this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seraphim

[bruise pristine]

Originally posted by TheRapeFish

Take a random string of numbers in your head, and you can find patterns in them. [/B]