Fast/Slow Personal Jesus

[ACSuperstar]

Do you like the faster or slower of MM's personal jesus cover?

[.new.model.]

I wasn't aware their was a speed difference. The only difference I know of is that the LWF one just has a couple extra things in it making it longer.

[adamsrib]

Originally posted by .new.model.
I wasn't aware their was a speed difference. The only difference I know of is that the LWF one just has a couple extra things in it making it longer. I hadn't noticed. What are the extra things?

[Ctrl+Fuck]

Dance beats.

[FIGHTMF]

Originally posted by adamsrib
I hadn't noticed. What are the extra things?

LOL funny sig

Extras, theres an extra few reach out and touch faiths at the end and another cool screeaching guitar noise like at the start. And also after the song theres girls making noise and other random noises.

[TimTim_Anarchy]

i do have to admit i like the talent that is needed to be able to play the fast version that fast and accurately, & it also sounds good upbeat, but i only really like their origionals, so after a long think, im gonna have to stick with that in this case.

the first time i heard the sped up version, i didnt honestly think it was even manson... but then it occured to me later throughout the song that it was.. :P

i really dislike the clip though, & the saint clip aswell..

[PersonaI Jesus]

I like the version on Lest We Forget, and the "Rude Photo Motor remix" is good too.

[Shinya]

I've never heard this "sped up" version. Is it fan made?

[Luxon]

i liked the version on lest we forget but i have never heard the sped up version. where can you get it from?

[the_nihilist]

I wasn't really aware of the speed difference either...I'd say faster though because it sounds a bit creepier the slower it gets.

[JamesFranco]

uh... am I the only one not seeing a difference? as far as I know there's only one PJ - the one on LWF...

[Charles Monroe]

Okay, so we have the LWF version, what's the other one? The video?

[evilsongwriter]

Fatser Faster!!!LOL!!

[Luxon]

Originally posted by Charles Monroe
Okay, so we have the LWF version, what's the other one? The video?
I've just checked that out. the tempos are exactly the same on the video as on LWF. The only difference is that the video misses out a small bit that shortens it to the Album version.

[channel]

I prefer the LWF version.

[synthemesc]

Okay, I'm confused-

Is there a faster version or not?

Seeing as I'm not sure, I voted for slow. Ha.

[FIGHTMF]

Stupid noobs, theres no such thing as a fast personal jesus.

[Shinya]

So alls you guys are talking about is the edited version from the promo? Who would choose that? Just about every single has an edited version.

[Obvilon_]

I'd say there are two versions. The one on the album (LWF) and the one on the video. The video version is slower than the album version, for me at least. I like the one on the video better.. more depeche mode-ish.

[TimothySkold6]

I fucking hate that Rotor remix of the song!!!!

It fucking sucks monkey balls!!!

[ACSuperstar]

OK i thought id clear all this shit up:

MANSON MADE 2 VERSIONS OF PERSONAL JESUS 2 SEPERATE VERSIONS WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES- MAINLY SPEED. THE SLOWER ONE IS IN THE VIDEO AND ON LWF

I could post the faster one for dload later
(how do i post it?)

[Tigger]

ACSuperstar: Please don't say the faster one is 3:52?

[ryandyer]

you do realize that this "faster version" you talk about could be the personal jesus cover by gravity kills that is mistaken as manson on MANY occasions right?

[.new.model.]

Originally posted by ACSuperstar
OK i thought id clear all this shit up:

MANSON MADE 2 VERSIONS OF PERSONAL JESUS 2 SEPERATE VERSIONS WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES- MAINLY SPEED. THE SLOWER ONE IS IN THE VIDEO AND ON LWF

I could post the faster one for dload later
(how do i post it?)

Off the sauce...now.

[Luxon]

i'm telling you, there is now difference in tempos between the video and the LWF version. I started them at the same time and they run smoothely but the video misses a bit out and finishes earlier.

[Shinya]

Personal Jesus (radio edit) 3:19

Personal Jesus (CD version) 4:06

Those are the times according to the promo. I was just watching the video yesterday or the day before. It was just slightly edited, like Luxon already said. Maybe it uses the radio edit. I don't know. I've never bothered to check the time length of the video (and don't feel like doing it) and I've never heard Personal Jesus off the radio or from the CD promo. But it wouldn't surprise me if the video is just the radio edit. A few of Manson's videos use the radio edit version in them. Like Coma White and I Don't Like The Drugs.

There's no way in hell there's a sound difference.

[monkeyfukka]

This has already been posted elsewhere. I don't remember where the post is, but it contained info on the differences.

There are only THREE versions.

The video version.
The LWF/single version.
The promo (radio edit) version.

There are 2 remix versions.

The Rude Photo Motor Mix.
The Rude Photo Motor Mix (Instrumental) - on promo only.

Ok, i might be wrong as far as saying this "fast" version doesn't exist (since, before Deadstar.net posted it, i didn't realise there was an instrumental version of the RPM mix of PJ). So... UPLOAD AND WE SHALL JUDGE THEE! (see below)

You can upload it with http://yousendit.com
Just post the link after uploading the file.

[Hazekiah]

Having followed the sad progression of this thread, and out of curiosity, I just downloaded the Gravity Kills cover of "Personal Jesus." I did live in St. Louis for a time, after all. I'll admit it, I went to see Gravity Kills on Halloween one year. Hell, I'll even admit having had a good time.

But every time I finally get to hear a song that people commonly mistake for a Manson track (i.e. "Dead God," "You Spin Me Right Round," etc.), I have to wonder....

...what the hell is wrong with you people? Not only is the music obviously drastically below par for anything Manson would EVER release in most cases, but it would seem that you have no fucking clue what Manson's voice sounds like.

How the hell could anyone who's heard more than two Manson songs ever think Tim Skold, Edsel Dope, or that fuck from Gravity Kills was Manson?

I repeat, since we seem to have a gathering of you hearing impaired purveyors of false covers present and accounted for in this thread...WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???

Seriously, have you just not heard enough of Manson's output to distinguish between his vocal and musical stylings and anyone else's, or what?

Grrr....

[mechanical]

speaking of personal jesus, anyone know where i could download the instrumental version of the rpm mix, i have the vinyl with it on, but sadly no way to transfer it over to my pc

[SicFuc]

I'm partial to the LWF version.

[ACSuperstar]

SOMEBODY JUST TELL ME HOW I CAN POST THE FAST ONE IM TALKING ABOUT

[Tigger]

Just say how long it is and more than likely it will settle everything!

If not, if you have MSN...

[Shinya]

Okay, I just listened to the video and the LWF version. They're both eaxctly the same. Also, I just watched the video from the Korean Nobodies 2005 Against All Gods Mix disc using Windows Media Player. The player displays the time as being 3:20. There ya go. The video is just the edited radio version.

[chemist80]

Originally posted by Hazekiah
..But every time I finally get to hear a song that people commonly mistake for a Manson track (i.e. "Dead God," "You Spin Me Right Round," etc.), I have to wonder....

...what the hell is wrong with you people? Not only is the music obviously drastically below par for anything Manson would EVER release in most cases, but it would seem that you have no fucking clue what Manson's voice sounds like.

How the hell could anyone who's heard more than two Manson songs ever think Tim Skold, Edsel Dope, or that fuck from Gravity Kills was Manson?

I repeat, since we seem to have a gathering of you hearing impaired purveyors of false covers present and accounted for in this thread...WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???

Seriously, have you just not heard enough of Manson's output to distinguish between his vocal and musical stylings and anyone else's, or what?

Grrr....

This must be another point we agree on, Haz. I found "You Spin Me Right Round" on P2P awhile back and downloaded it. I was shocked that obviously a lot of people out there think that's Manson. Don't trust the labels on files on the P2Ps people.

[ACSuperstar]

People we are NOT talking about differences from the video to the LWF version because they are the same song

Ill have to get proven wrong or whatever, but in order to do so, i must POST the song.... HOW?

[Shinya]

My posts aren't really directed at you. It's been brought up in this thread that there's a difference between the video and the LWF version.

As for posting whatever it is that you have, the only way I know how, is to use http://www.yousendit.com/ . Upload it there and then give us the link to download it.

[Tigger]

There is NO faster version of Personal Jesus by Marilyn Manson! To prove it ALL you need to do is post how LONG the song you have is. Then, this pointless discussion will be over.

[Obvilon_]

I think hes talking about THIS (http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08CM0XR6EXEA91OAWII8PVCIZT)

[Shinya]

Thanks for posting that. I sure hope that isn't what he's talking about, because that isn't Manson and sounds nothing like him.

[lostfox]

Originally posted by Tigger
ACSuperstar: Please don't say the faster one is 3:52?
So who made the 3:52 version anyway? I just downloaded it thinking it was the MM version, but it's obviously different than the one on LWF. Although the singer could be mistaken for Manson IMO.

[SHERI]

i have only heard the version on lwf what cd is the faster one on i would love to hear it.

[XanderXIX]

So is this going to the graveyard now?
I like the graveyard.
We can send n00bish threads there whenever.

[lostfox]

The song I'm talking about (and maybe the thread starter too) was probably not recorded by Marilyn Manson, but has a similar sound. I would just like to know what band made it. It's 3:52 long and can be found as "Marilyn Manson - Personal Jesus.mp3" on some P2P networks.

I could upload it somewhere so you could check it out, but I'm not sure that's allowed here.

[AbsintheSpade]

Originally posted by Shinya
Personal Jesus (Radio Edit) 3:19
Personal Jesus (Video Edit) 3:28
Personal Jesus (Album Version) 4:06

Fixed it

Originally posted by Shinya
The player displays the time as being 3:20. There ya go. The video is just the edited radio version.

Mine as well....but the Video edit that i ripped from the LWF DVD is 3:28.....3:27 to be exact.

So the TV version is 7 seconds shorter
It misses the dog barks in the beginning

OT: In each of the edits, why did they cut off the ending??
Did they Not have enough footage for it??

[XanderXIX]

I like going slow . . .
Then really hard and fast . . .
Wait . . . wrong thread.
O.O

[XanderXIX]

Originally posted by morrissey
i know what you are talking about!!!!!!

everybody, listen carefuly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMPwPd6rBI&search=personal%20jesus%20live%20on%20letterman

you can notice by the start that it is indeed faster than the studio vertion.

is that waht the thread is about?

if so yes, there is a speedy vertion, and taht is, when they play live.

Well, there's a reason whyt it's sped up.
Because they have a time limit.
I have never seem Marilyn Manson go over the hour and a half mark.

[XanderXIX]

Originally posted by morrissey
me too, and the excuse is the "sour trhoat".

if he meant speedy, well, personal jesus on lettermna is quite fast, i dont recall any studio vertion having variations in speed.

but anyway, they were excelent at this show, i dont care much about letterman, but after hefaked on top of the pops, this was quite a good pay.

I was kind of upset that Top of Pops was lip-synced.
I never thought Marilyn Manson would ever do that.
*sniff sniff*

[XanderXIX]

Originally posted by morrissey
exactly, top of the pops forces artists to fake, i dont know whats the problem in letting them play live.

still, it was not as bad as the show were everything was going really neet, and then....


plop! ginger falls, we need a new drummer!

Ginger fell al the Comet Awards in . . . Germany.
Top of the Pops had Manson on guitar, and flames.
I don't know how flames worked in that small ass studio they had.

[XanderXIX]

Originally posted by morrissey
manson plays goodie the guitar.

the top of the pops organizeres....they care alot about putting flames and fireworks, and all that shit...

but they dont even disguise the fact that everyone can notice the guitars are note even plugged.

The effects aren't even made by the guitar . . .
>.>
<.<

[XanderXIX]

I know the the instruments weren't plugged in.
The so called sliding that Marilyn does while on the guitar, is not done by guitar at all.

[lostfox]

OK, back on topic... I posted a link to a short lo-fi clip of the song I'm talking about here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZZZBGCRV

If anyone know who recorded this version, please let me know.

EDIT: After having listened to Gravity Kills' version of PJ, I would say this is a remix or something of that song. It's quite different from the album version though.