God Eat God

[RottingAwayHope]

When he talks about the dolls is hereferring to us, the fans?

[profane]

I believe he's speaking from God's point of view. He changes from questioning God to answering himself in God's words.

"The only smiling are you dolls that I made, but you are plastic, so are your brains."

I'm sure this could be taken and is meant to be taken in different ways, but this is the way I like to take the lyrics.

[TERROJA]

Well, the entire song is told from Adam Kadmon's perspective, so it would stand to reason that he's talking about his own followers. And since Adam Kadom is a representation of Marilyn Manson . . . well, you see where I'm going with this.

[sinister ninja]

What does he mean when he says, can you come off the tree, in the shape of a t.?

[profane]

The crucifix, or Tau Cross. Meat in the shape of a T.

[Mr.Insanity]

Originally posted by RottingAwayHope
When he talks about the dolls is hereferring to us, the fans?

I tend to view it as a reference to the Mechanical Animals who reside in the land of phonies which is Holy Wood.


Originally posted by profane
I believe he's speaking from God's point of view. He changes from questioning God to answering himself in God's words.

"The only smiling are you dolls that I made, but you are plastic, so are your brains."

I'm sure this could be taken and is meant to be taken in different ways, but this is the way I like to take the lyrics.

I've wondered the same thing before. If this is the case, it is no doubt inspired by the parent/child dialogue of Mon Enfant... the song which made it's infamous partial appearance during that particular era.

[profane]

Ah yes, it certainly does reflect that inspiration, doesn't it. Good plug, man.

[monstar]

my opinion is that holywood is a story told from after when it happened, and that this song is ADAM introducing the story(before the bullrts, before the flies) and the smiling in the dolls that he made means that his sold out revolution has made people just as plastic as dolls, and they are the only happy people left in the world after what happened

["Afliction"]

Originally posted by profane
The crucifix, or Tau Cross. Meat in the shape of a T.

Agreed! I the tau cross represents innosence. I think Adam is trying to say to god that god he(god) isn't as innosent as he looks.

my opinion is that holywood is a story told from after when it happened, and that this song is ADAM introducing the story(before the bullrts, before the flies) and the smiling in the dolls that he made means that his sold out revolution has made people just as plastic as dolls, and they are the only happy people left in the world after what happened

The dolls are plastic. They are created. Their smiles are fake and plastic, as their thoughts. I think that those are the followers of Adam's rebelion - we the fans, since MM is Adam. In the time of God eat God the rebelion is over, but his follower's are still smiling. Adam is the one, who made it that way, because in the end he becomes a product. The fans got what they want - a celebirty wich to worship, and god still looks innocent on his cross.

[Insect]

I see this song as kind of reproachful, because he is saying that even Jesus on the cross wants to come down to hold himself, shielding himself from the misery of the new world created through Adam's rebellion, but Adam's fans are too stupid to stop smiling, even though the "trendy" rebellion is over.

[DeusExKunst]

Godeatgod is both the first track of the album and the final track of the story; it serves as an introduction to The Love Song, which thematically and storyline-wise is really the introductory song in the Triptych.

Remember, Holy Wood is cyclical. While Count To Six And Die (The Vacuum of Infintie Space Enclosing) is the last track on the album itself, the end of that song is found only at the start of Godeatgod. Therefore, Godetgod both precedes and follows Count To Six And Die. Thematically, I see it as a introductory track to Mechanical Animals: the revolution is finished, the dolls Adam has made are smiling, and he has his first taste of stardom. The only thing problematic about this are the lyrics "before the bullets/before the flies", and I haven't yet found a way to tie this in with my idea.

["Afliction"]

Originally posted by DeusExKunst
The only thing problematic about this are the lyrics "before the bullets/before the flies", and I haven't yet found a way to tie this in with my idea.

Well Holy Wood is somewhat an anti-gun album and guns in it represent killing. The flies represent death. I think he means that right before he was killed (by authoraties most likely; "blinded because he cannot see while dead) the last thing he saw were the followers he had made, smiling and celebrating his death, manupulated (that's why they are called dolls) by those against whom the rebellion was.

I still can't figure out where ACSS feats in the tryptich? ACSS is The end, and yet MA and Holy Wood are cycling, so there can be no end.

[maugan_ra_3rd]

Well, given that the ethos of the album is revolution - I always took it to be him satirising his contemporaries on their complacency. Since it's quite a coherant pattern that revolutionaries strive for something which they deem to be better, and therefore they see those not of 'the revolution' to be unfullfilled life. It's a prelude to the act of rebellion, in my view.

[Hellhammer]

So really adam does die and is reborn as the distegrator right? in antichrist superstar.

[gomonkeygo]

Coming down off the tree. He is blamed for something (crucifiction), and then he acts all innocent (meat in the shape of a T) tau cross = innocence.