Its a Triptych not a Trilogy.

[ajtait]

This is not intended to be criticism of some of the great Triptych interpretations, but instead something to consider. An idea that I had floating around in my head is the idea that the three albums that compose the Triptych are not really set in chronological order but might need to be thought of as the same story seen at different perspectives, or that the three albums are supposed to be layered one on top of the other in order to create a composite story. A triptych in reality is a painting (usually religious) that is comprised of three separate pictures. Like the one seen here http://www.sugarpoet.com/photos/chagall/triptych.jpg or here http://www.wga.hu/art/b/beer/triptych.jpg. (Check out Manson's Trismegistus painting it looks sort of like a Triptych http://www.nachtkabarett.com/occult/trismegistus.jpg) The triptych was always said to be told in a non-liner fashion, I think that seeing the triptych all at once so to speak might be closer to what Marilyn Manson was thinking off.

[adaeon5]

i would definately agree on the non-linear/multi-layer theory...

[ihtia0]

Originally posted by adaeon5
i would definately agree on the non-linear/multi-layer theory...

me too

[timnicebutdim]

I don't regard the three albums as a Triptych as each album does make sense on they're own as much as they make sense when the other two albums are put with it.

[Coma_Black_8]

Good thinking! Makes sense to me!

[TRNQT]

I've said this a thousand times, but (even Manson has explicitly stated that) the correltions between the albums are three dimensional. Though there is a progression to the Triptych and each can stand on its own (as can any panel of a Triptych) certain moments of the albums coincide to the same point in time and space. Born Again, I Want To Disappear and Irresponsible Hate Anthem all being recorded Live February 14th, 1997.

[Shangri-LIE]

Originally posted by TRNQT
I've said this a thousand times, but (even Manson has explicitly stated that) the correltions between the albums are three dimensional. Though there is a progression to the Triptych and each can stand on its own (as can any panel of a Triptych) certain moments of the albums coincide to the same point in time and space. Born Again, I Want To Disappear and Irresponsible Hate Anthem all being recorded Live February 14th, 1997.

If you also notice and I will explain this on a streaming timeline
as opposed to in a paragraph format.

Minute of Decay -------->Coma White ------> Coma Black ---->

Minute of decay was the era of apathy. He was truly alienated,
until he met Coma. A beautiful world/drug/lover ect. Then as
the story progressed he found himself only becoming more
mechanical, and automatic. Not only abused by his own hardworn
existance but romantically addicted to it.

He became a part of a world that looked glamorus, and he
killed himself to be a part of it.He was tired of being numb, and he wanted to experience beauty and emotion. However it just
made him a pet, a programmed response to fit a particular
format.

This is summed up in I wanna Dissapear. "Yesterday man, I was a nihilist, now today I'm, just too fucking bored."

Coma Black is the ending point, where everything he has tried
to love has died. Himself, his world, everything that once had
meaning and sentiment to him. Now it is beyond repair, tattered
from neglegence, and self doubt.

He realizes he hasn't changed the world, his revolution has
gone awry. He has only deformed the ones he has tried to change , and co - exist with.

They'd remember this as valentines day. (:

P.S. did you get my interpertation that I PM'd you?

Shangri_Love

[TRNQT]

Originally posted by Shangri-LIE

P.S. did you get my interpertation that I PM'd you?



Yes, I did. I'm at work now though. I'll try to give you a thoughtful response a bit later tonight.

[TheOmegasAlpha]

I've always tried to think of the Triptych like that. It's clear that it's not in any specific order (like HW-MA-AS), but in random (wouldn't say really random, but you know what I mean), the story has to be sorted through and placed toghether piece by (sometimes overlapping) piece.

[ajtait]

Originally posted by Shangri-LIE
If you also notice and I will explain this on a streaming timeline
as opposed to in a paragraph format.

Minute of Decay -------->Coma White ------> Coma Black ---->

Minute of decay was the era of apathy. He was truly alienated,
until he met Coma. A beautiful world/drug/lover ect. Then as
the story progressed he found himself only becoming more
mechanical, and automatic. Not only abused by his own hardworn
existance but romantically addicted to it.

He became a part of a world that looked glamorus, and he
killed himself to be a part of it.He was tired of being numb, and he wanted to experience beauty and emotion. However it just
made him a pet, a programmed response to fit a particular
format.

This is summed up in I wanna Dissapear. "Yesterday man, I was a nihilist, now today I'm, just too fucking bored."

Coma Black is the ending point, where everything he has tried
to love has died. Himself, his world, everything that once had
meaning and sentiment to him. Now it is beyond repair, tattered
from neglegence, and self doubt.

He realizes he hasn't changed the world, his revolution has
gone awry. He has only deformed the ones he has tried to change , and co - exist with.

They'd remember this as valentines day. (:

P.S. did you get my interpertation that I PM'd you?

Shangri_Love

Wouldn't the order go Coma Black -----------> Coma White -----------> Minute of Decay -------->. Instead of Minute of Decay --------> Coma White ------> Coma Black ---->, because Manson released the albums in reverse order. Just a thought, I don't mean to insult your idea, which I agree with and I am intrigued by.

[Shangri-LIE]

No, and I'll explain Why. 1996 was the present. As opposed
to the first 2 cycles which took place in the past. Each song
leading up to ACS was an event leading up to the birth of
Anti - Christ superstar. But my timeline wasn't based on a
timeline, as far as the linear and dimensional aspects of the
tryptich as much as it was the numerical title of each song.
14 , 14, 15. It goes Future , Present , Past. Which in that case
I should have made it. Coma Black ------> Coma White--->
Minute of Decay. But it is all so intergal, and it makes up
what he is. So the order really isn't as important as the
lyrical indications of the song.Like a bianary code. Dark
and Light, Good and Evil. That is what keeps things alive.
Being in the grey area is what kills us. We become compalcent
and numb. So in the present sense. Minute of Decay is the
explanation of this. It is the definition of being in this "grey"
area.

[lindz]

Wouldn't the order go Coma Black -----------> Coma White -----------> Minute of Decay -------->.

I never thought about this until now.

I've been to black and back,I've whited out my name.

its really interesting how things fit together.

[AnjoKabalistico]

Originally posted by drag84
I really dont think manson put as much thought into the triptych than half of his fans do trying to figure it out.
for one thing I feel Manson just put out ACSS. Then MA...the responce wasnt all that great to MA so he made up for it with Holywood...and gave birth to the story with holywood. Nothing from mechaincal corrlates with ACSS...but Holwood contains elements of both.

It doesn't matter if he thought of these things or not. Art lives on its own. The artist is just a tool art needs to be exposed to the world. Art evolves and molds itself when other people interpret it and build their own views of it. If Manson thought of these things or not is irrelevant.

[Hellhammer]

Interesting