The POSITIVE Mark Chaussee Thread [Archive]

Shangri-LIE

11-03-2004, 06:27 PM

I remember back in the day of the Animals that
were Mechanical.A certain Pogo saying 5 would
only be in the band for 6 months.Well 6 years and
3 records later, that statement was proved wrong.
I don't see how anyone can say tha Mark routinley
fucks up the songs, when there is NO correct, official
way to play them.When I go see the Columbus show,
I will find out for myself.But If I were him, after reading
the reveiws he has gotten,I would fuck up on purpose,
and ruin all of your evenings.Then I would flaunt my ass
beside of Manson, and remind all the cynics who is the one
on stage.He will make his adjustments according to Mansons expectations. We know one thing, Marilyn has a bad temper,
and he doesn'ttolerate fuck ups, so you know he is doing something right.

Let's see...no microphone stands thrown at him, no injuries,
no insults from Manson, I think he passes the checklist, and
is doing pretty good.

Shangri_GoodTimes

P.S. bring it on hippos and criticals

TimothySkold6

11-03-2004, 06:43 PM

Mark is just a filler.

Zim Zum and John5 were suppose to be in there for more than just the tour

Shangri-LIE

11-03-2004, 06:47 PM

Not to antagonize, but who said he was " just a filler"
oh Twiggy 5 master ?

TimothySkold6

11-03-2004, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Shangri-LIE
Not to antagonize, but who said he was " just a filler"
oh Twiggy 5 master ?

Well seeing as how nothing but us talking about him being in the band and Manson not saying absolutely anything about this guy. I don't see him any further than after the last date of the AAG tour

TimothySkold6

11-03-2004, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Lydia
I can understand why people miss John 5's presence in the band, because that's how I felt when Daisy was kicked out of Marilyn Manson. When Manson named Zim Zum as Daisy's replacement, I was definitely not a happy camper. When I saw Zim Zum play live, I thought he sucked. Then, when John 5 replaced him, I didn't really care one way or another because of my dislike for Zim Zum.

Mark Chaussee is the new guy on the block, and he is inheriting a fanbase that misses John 5. It's his job to win the fans over, and if he doesn't do that, he'll continue to get negative feedback. Fans don't take kindly to a new guitarist who doesn't fill the shoes of the guy they're replacing.

I don't have an opinion about Mark Chaussee one way or another since I haven't seen him play live yet, and expect to see the great show the band has always delivered in the past.

I don't miss John5. I mean I understand that he's gone and that's the life of being a Marilyn Manson guitarist. I will say he did seem to have the best relationship with the band than any other Manson guitarist had.

Also, Daisy wasn't kicked out. He left the band.

BB3K

11-03-2004, 07:15 PM

I haven't heard the guy yet, but what a lot of people don't seem to be thinking about is that perhaps his monitors are messing up too. If his monitors are messing up, if they're in-ear or standard stage, it's going to be hard to keep time.

It's like people are saying, "Marilyn messed up a few times because his monitors were messing up and Pogo messed up a few times too because of sound troubles. But man, that Mark guy just sucks. He kept messing up."

TERROJA

11-03-2004, 07:16 PM

People hated John 5 at first, but he won them over. Mark can do the same, I'm sure.

Shangri-LIE

11-03-2004, 07:18 PM

True 6, and Lydia. I would be intimidated if I were in
his shoes. If I got called on to take the role going
head on into a best of tour, I would probably flip my
shit. Out of both boyish joy, and unsupressable fear.
hehe

I have been around for the ages too, but it never really
bothered me when a guitarist left, except for 5. However
it isn't Marks fault, and I think we should all be mature
enough now to recognize that.

Flipping him off , spitting at him, shouting obscenities at
him, that is all very disrespectful. I just feel bad for the
guy.It really kind of pisses me off, so when I see him.
I'll be sure to give him all the best wishes and support
that he deserves.You don't treat anyone like that.
That is straight up bullshit, and you little punks know it too.

He will probably do better, and get more comfortable in
the group as the tour marches on. But pay attention to
the show. Don't waste your money on doing a live critique.
Just take it all in, from all sides.

vht

11-03-2004, 07:25 PM

a year from now everyone will love chaussee.

we go through this every time the band gets a new member

shockrocker666

11-03-2004, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by vht
a year from now everyone will love chaussee.

we go through this every time the band gets a new member

your probably right but it is hard to convince myself that he is a positive addition to the band.

Coma_Black_8

11-03-2004, 07:31 PM

I think that if Manson thinks he's good for the job, Then he must be. Manson knows what he's doing, And he's been through enough guitarists to not pick a shitty one. I'm goin to the TO show on the 15th, So i'll be able to see how well/awful he plays then. But yea, I'm guessing a year from now if he's still in the band, Everyone will love him.

Shangri-LIE

11-03-2004, 07:34 PM

I don't know why, but I have a good feeling about him.
Otherwise I wouldn't be vehemently defending his role.
But when it comes down to it. He is here so YOU all can
have a tour.

Damian

11-03-2004, 08:12 PM

I heard him play the fight song, and he's good in my book :D
Plus, he's presence in that video rocked more than john. Out with the old, in with the new. Fuck you guys who are to stupid to see that.

Legato

11-03-2004, 08:25 PM

TimothySkold6

11-03-2004, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Damian
I heard him play the fight song, and he's good in my book :D
Plus, he's presence in that video rocked more than john. Out with the old, in with the new. Fuck you guys who are to stupid to see that.

I just don't really like guy and I don't see him being in the band any longer than after the last date of the AAG tour.

Is that so hard to accept?? I mean it's my thoughts, my opinions. Just because I say them doesn't mean you have to agree with them.

I mean, I am just more vocal about it and everything.

Am I so bad for thinking this way??? Not really, because it's just me and my thoughts.

Yes, John5's shoes are gonna be big to fill, but so far he has done nothing remotely close to filling them.

I don't expect him to be great or anything, or fill John5's shoes so fast, but I can't help it I don't like the guy.

It's waht I believe. Get over it. You like him. That's great :D I'm happy. I don't like him. That's great as well :D. Be happy for me.

newo

11-03-2004, 08:37 PM

sorry if im behind on something
ok, but what video ???????

spookykid520

11-03-2004, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by TimothySkold6
I just don't really like guy and I don't see him being in the band any longer than after the last date of the AAG tour.

Is that so hard to accept??....
i agree. if infact, he were to be the new "permanent" guitarist.. there would have been some sort of official annoucnement from manson. and there hasnt been one.. so yeah..

TimothySkold6

11-03-2004, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by newo
sorry if im behind on something
ok, but what video ???????

Someone posted a bootleg video of them playing the fight song in one of the threads in the AAG forum. I think it was the SF one.

newo

11-03-2004, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by TimothySkold6
Someone posted a bootleg video of them playing the fight song in one of the threads in the AAG forum. I think it was the SF one.

Thanks for that downloading now.

Damian

11-03-2004, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by TimothySkold6
I just don't really like guy and I don't see him being in the band any longer than after the last date of the AAG tour.

Is that so hard to accept?? I mean it's my thoughts, my opinions. Just because I say them doesn't mean you have to agree with them.

I mean, I am just more vocal about it and everything.

Am I so bad for thinking this way??? Not really, because it's just me and my thoughts.

Yes, John5's shoes are gonna be big to fill, but so far he has done nothing remotely close to filling them.

I don't expect him to be great or anything, or fill John5's shoes so fast, but I can't help it I don't like the guy.

It's waht I believe. Get over it. You like him. That's great :D I'm happy. I don't like him. That's great as well :D. Be happy for me.

You just bitch in every thread remotley linked to him, stating your opinion as if it were FACT, which it is not. You don't say, "I belive he will be in the band for a short while", but instead you say "he's just a filler" as if you have all the knowlage about Manson in your back pocket.

You are close-minded in the sense that you can't even set aside your OWN opinion to see if he is indeed good or not. At first, I laughed when I heard who was playing. But then I saw that video, and my passion for Manson flared again. He was rocking hard, playing good, and it ruled. Regardless of what your opinion is, don't knock him as some lesser member. He wanted to be in Marilyn Manson, and that's enough passion for me to give him a shot. So quit your whinning and look at the music. Listen to him play when or if you get to see him. If you go into the show thinking "oh great, some REPLACEMENT", that's all you'll be able to see. But if you go in, just letting the band speak for itself, maybe, just maybe you'll be able to accept him.

Blah.

sicklystar

11-04-2004, 12:18 AM

i really just want to know mansons reasoning for picking chaussee. i want to hear manson say anything about him.

TimothySkold6

11-04-2004, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by Damian
You just bitch in every thread remotley linked to him, stating your opinion as if it were FACT, which it is not. You don't say, "I belive he will be in the band for a short while", but instead you say "he's just a filler" as if you have all the knowlage about Manson in your back pocket.

You are close-minded in the sense that you can't even set aside your OWN opinion to see if he is indeed good or not. At first, I laughed when I heard who was playing. But then I saw that video, and my passion for Manson flared again. He was rocking hard, playing good, and it ruled. Regardless of what your opinion is, don't knock him as some lesser member. He wanted to be in Marilyn Manson, and that's enough passion for me to give him a shot. So quit your whinning and look at the music. Listen to him play when or if you get to see him. If you go into the show thinking "oh great, some REPLACEMENT", that's all you'll be able to see. But if you go in, just letting the band speak for itself, maybe, just maybe you'll be able to accept him.

Blah.

Oh so I have to go out of my way and say I believe in every post I make???

Psh!!! I think not...

Take it how it is or don't take it all

Burlesk

11-04-2004, 12:47 AM

Give up already will ya!??!

Nine

11-04-2004, 12:49 AM

I think he should have a Manson stage name.
Maybe that's why many think he's not a "real" member of the band....yet

Burlesk

11-04-2004, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Nine
I think he should have a Manson stage name.
Maybe that's why many think he's not a "real" member of the band....yet

someone might disagree with you on that one.... >_>

TimothySkold6

11-04-2004, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by BurleSK101
Give up already will ya!??!

Never!!! I stand by my convictions!!!

I think he should have a Manson stage name.
Maybe that's why many think he's not a "real" member of the band....yet

Does this hint to only being a filler maybe???

Burlesk

11-04-2004, 12:51 AM

OMFG!

Good Night, 'Phant(s).

Shangri-LIE

11-04-2004, 06:06 AM

So Tim Skold is just a temp? I don't recall him switching to a
stage name. From now on, the only credible sources on the
abilitys of Mark , are the ones that come from the people that
have gone to a show, and have heard him play.

Anyone else, with all respect Timothy, really needs to keep
their "opinions" to themselves.Unless it is some sort of
foresight, or something other than his perferomance abilitys.
It is quite simple, and I will keep it simple just to avoid drama.

1. If you haven't seen him play. Then you CANNOT say
that he butchers any songs.

If you were that concerend about the quality of guitars for
MM. Why didn't you , a fellow guitarist, persue an avenue
to audition?

With all due respect, (which is VERY rare)

Shangri_Lollypops

Charles Monroe

11-04-2004, 12:43 PM

I could be mistaken, but I think John must have messed up some songs during the first show of RID too somtimes, I can't blame Mark for it, he has learned to songs in such a short time period..
As long as it doesn't stay like that :-)
But I can't judge the guy since this is an AMERICAN tour :-(

TimothySkold6

11-04-2004, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Shangri-LIE
So Tim Skold is just a temp? I don't recall him switching to a
stage name.

Yes, but Skold was already well established with Manson before he formally joined the band. Remember Tainted Love anyone??

Originally posted by Shangri-LIE
Anyone else, with all respect Timothy, really needs to keep
their "opinions" to themselves.Unless it is some sort of
foresight, or something other than his perferomance abilitys.

Oh, but I have seen him play. Just like Damian, I saw The Fight Song and I listen to my other credible sources about it.

Yes, I will admit I'm a guitar player and I'm a little hard on the guy but so waht. It's life, everyone has a different opinion. Either you learn to live with it or just give up. I'm not asking you to agree with me or asking you to disagree with me. I'm just gonna voice my opinions and thoughts like I always do and am not gonna let people try to shut it down just because I go against the mainstream.

Originally posted by Shangri-LIE
If you were that concerend about the quality of guitars for
MM. Why didn't you , a fellow guitarist, persue an avenue
to audition?

There were no fucking auditions dingleberry!!!

Burlesk

11-04-2004, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by TimothySkold6

There were no fucking auditions dingleberry!!!

Prove it.

Shangri-LIE

11-04-2004, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by TimothySkold6
There were no fucking auditions dingleberry!!!

It was meant to express itself figurativley. But I'll
let it rest now. We both have our respective opinions,
and it does no good to bicker.

Shangie

shockrocker666

11-04-2004, 06:54 PM

Just give him time, either he'll fail shortly after the tour and we will be rid of him or else he'll stick around and in time love him to. Personaly i'm hoping for the first option due to the fact that the band can do better than him, but only time will tell.

Tourniquet

11-04-2004, 07:18 PM

Everyone was hating Tim too when he first came in and see now..

GunsOfBrixton

11-06-2004, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Tourniquet
Everyone was hating Tim too when he first came in and see now..

I thought Skold was more than compitent to fill Twiggy's shoes in the studio, but it took him a long time to get comfortable live. Not until the Fall 2003 tour did he become comfortable, before that Skold fucking sucked live. He didn't do a god damn thing, just sat there, bobbed his head a little, grinded on his bass a little, and would walk around a little. But for the most part, he was stationary the whole time, just playing the notes and that's it. From what I've heard, Mark is at least lively, and from The Fight Song video, he didn't look too bad. I actually thought the headbanging was hilarious, something I haven't seen live in Manson before. (I take that back...Zim Zum)

Charles Monroe

11-06-2004, 12:31 PM

^Yeah but it's also weird if you start acting like the whole stage is yours the first gigs you play in a new band..

GunsOfBrixton

11-06-2004, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Charles Monroe
^Yeah but it's also weird if you start acting like the whole stage is yours the first gigs you play in a new band..

Yes, I'm well aware, but Skold was completely inert early on. He did nothing.

Charles Monroe

11-06-2004, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by GunsOfBrixton
Yes, I'm well aware, but Skold was completely inert early on. He did nothing.

Okay, I haven't seen material of that yet.

Mr_Hollywood

11-06-2004, 02:13 PM

Seeing Mark play live, yea, i agree, he still doesn't look completely comfortable onstage. But he was trying his best to get into it, and he even was prancing around with Timmy during Antichrist. He was fun with his head banging antics. But he has so much potential, and i don't think he is entirely ready to explore it yet, not until he's comfortable.

Anyone from the San Fransisco concert see the part where Marilyn went underneath Marks legs? Or was that just a trick of the eye?

GunsOfBrixton

11-06-2004, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Charles Monroe
Okay, I haven't seen material of that yet.

It was Ozzfest 2003, and the show was fucking terrible.

the_freak_show

11-06-2004, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Shangri-LIE
I remember back in the day of the Animals that
were Mechanical.A certain Pogo saying 5 would
only be in the band for 6 months.Well 6 years and
3 records later, that statement was proved wrong.
I don't see how anyone can say tha Mark routinley
fucks up the songs, when there is NO correct, official
way to play them.When I go see the Columbus show,
I will find out for myself.But If I were him, after reading
the reveiws he has gotten,I would fuck up on purpose,
and ruin all of your evenings.Then I would flaunt my ass
beside of Manson, and remind all the cynics who is the one
on stage.He will make his adjustments according to Mansons expectations. We know one thing, Marilyn has a bad temper,
and he doesn'ttolerate fuck ups, so you know he is doing something right.

Let's see...no microphone stands thrown at him, no injuries,
no insults from Manson, I think he passes the checklist, and
is doing pretty good.

Shangri_GoodTimes

P.S. bring it on hippos and criticals

yeah i miss john 5 and everything but this is not the reason why im going to say this. u say that there is no correct way on playing the songs and blah blah will there is too a certain degree and yes i haven't heard the knew guy yet, but i don't think there's too many ppl out there who knows how to play the keyboard tunes and i think it was the bass tunes too on the guitar so i don't think mark could ever replace john (yeah i don't think what i just wrote made any sense but oh well i don't care im just stating my opinion)

U$EFUL RU1N$

11-08-2004, 10:32 PM

If he doesn't suck in the bootlegs coming out from this tour in the next few years I am won over. Time will only tell if he records anything.

TimothySkold6

11-08-2004, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by U$EFUL RU1N$
If he doesn't suck in the bootlegs coming out from this tour in the next few years I am won over. Time will only tell if he records anything.

:o This coming from the guy who thinks John5 was the god of all guitarists in Marilyn Manson

scorpiobeauty

11-09-2004, 02:12 AM

Chaussee is from the twin cities in MN and i know alot of people who knew him or still do. He used to be this huge ego maniac that sold well lets not say to alot of my friends in Minneapolis. yeah hes ok but he used to introduce himself at the bar as Chaussee from FIGHT ( rob halfords attempt) not to mention no one really cared enough when he was in Danzig either. So i hope this works out for the guy temporarily or permanent. Yeah he sounds like a dick from what he used to do and hopefully he will have learned that he can and will be replaced if he doesnt deflate that enormous ego that he was so known for. Hes not that great hes not the worst either. So let manson decide

sicklystar

11-09-2004, 02:55 AM

BB3K

11-09-2004, 03:11 AM

How do you pronounce Chausee? And does it have two S's or one?

sicklystar

11-09-2004, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by sicklystar
how do you say his last name, anyway?

is it "chaussey"

or.. "chowse"

or.. "chawse"

yes, i quoted myself..

Shangri-LIE

11-09-2004, 12:40 PM

' Chow - See '

_oswald

11-09-2004, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by scorpiobeauty
Chaussee is from the twin cities in MN and i know alot of people who knew him or still do. He used to be this huge ego maniac that sold well lets not say to alot of my friends in Minneapolis. yeah hes ok but he used to introduce himself at the bar as Chaussee from FIGHT ( rob halfords attempt) not to mention no one really cared enough when he was in Danzig either. So i hope this works out for the guy temporarily or permanent. Yeah he sounds like a dick from what he used to do and hopefully he will have learned that he can and will be replaced if he doesnt deflate that enormous ego that he was so known for. Hes not that great hes not the worst either. So let manson decide
For a man from the Twin Cities, he sure did his best to run by the crowds outside the show. I even saluted him and he just ran on by. Meh.

Mark isn't... that bad. Now, he did fumble up two parts (I want to say during Sweet Dreams and Lunchbox, but I might be wrong...) at the Minneapolis show. I remember that when he fumbled up two notes in a row the lady infront of me turned to her boyfriend in the spirit of 'the hell? did you just hear that?'.

I hope he either grows into the shoes (I give him a ton of leanency seeing as how he's basically 'just' gotten into the parade) or that he's a temporary replacement. Meh? Feh.

Der.

TimTim_Anarchy

04-29-2006, 09:01 AM

alright alright, mark isnt all bad, i have heard him make a couple of mistakes, but only a small few i must admit.

so yeah i can appreiciate him.

i mean, zimmy was also a mistake maker, & i personally think mark is a better player than zim.

& theyre both better players than me so :P

i just wish mark could do something different with his image, because so far he really doesnt fit in.

well there's karma for ya,
our kitten just took a shit on my bed. :P

Nil Three

04-29-2006, 11:35 AM

Mark isn't a bad player, per se, but I just don't like his sound. He seems to always have this autowah on no matter what he's playing, and it ruins the heavy songs. I like the way he plays The Nobodies, Dope Show, and Get Your Gunn, but that's about it.

Burlesk

04-29-2006, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by TimTim_ANARCHY

Stop bringing back old threads.

" :p "

...

j_absinthe

04-29-2006, 03:54 PM

Mark has AIDS?@!

Panzer

04-29-2006, 05:35 PM

Wow a thread from 2004...

I remember the hype when no one knew who the new guitarist was... what a dissapointment when we found out.

I mean... is there anything possitive about The Cheese man ?
Not personally but as the guitarist during the horrible AAG tour.

Nil Three

04-29-2006, 06:07 PM

Again, I liked the way he played the Dope Show live. A lot of people have said he ruined it, but I think it sucked live with 5 playing it. He did ruin most everything else, though.

HerrDoKtor

05-01-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Panzer
I mean... is there anything possitive about The Cheese man ?

Bozia

05-01-2006, 01:44 PM

meh, I saw them im myrtle beach in december 2004. the only fuck up that stands out i my mind was actually during personal jesus. during the main riff, he forgot to move into the "higher" part once or twice. I did type that up with a note description, but I figured not everyone (non-musical types) would know what i was talking about. Other than that he was fairly cool. i heard earlier in the tour he was stiff as a board, but he seemed to have loosed up a little bit by this point. I met him, tim and chris before the show. thim and chris were really cool guys, chris was a bit of a dick though.